Jared,

Great comment. 100% agree with you. We speak of this often in our community RE DNS.

Steve Sullivan
Membership Coordinator
OARC Mattermost Chat: @stevos
https://linktr.ee/dnsoarc

On 8/21/2025 7:04 AM, Jared Mauch via NANOG wrote:

On Aug 21, 2025, at 9:50 AM, Mike Simpson via NANOG<[email protected]> 
wrote:

The idea that we would expect Network Operators to be able to deal with the 
intricacies of running an irc client with commands and everything.
/sarcasm

Most windows folk seemed to be able cope with mIRC or whatever the kids are 
using these days. Even the ones that weren’t into internetworking.
I will say this:

We used to live in a world where most people on the list ran their own DNS, 
NNTP, IRC, E-mail etc servers and services and understood how each end-to-end 
bit worked together.  We seem to be much further from that these days, people 
either know the hosts or the network but not both, the applications but not the 
operating system.

It’s important to understand more of what is going on in the adjacent systems 
and network elements as that impacts the outcomes that we design and engineer 
for these days.

- Jared
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