In our case, the cost of (C) is pissed off eyeball customers that cancel service with us because they can’t get to their destined content service because the IP geolocation company thinks we are lying on our geofeed data and that their system of geolocation data is “better” than our geofeed data.
-Mike > On Jan 28, 2026, at 19:20, Abdullah DevRel of IPinfo via NANOG > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I think I failed to demonstrate the scale of the ProbeNet operations. > > For us, having a handful of servers in each data center is enough and will > reduce the RTT of the peering ASN and nearby networks. So, we constantly need > to expand to other diverse networks. It is pretty easy to buy a few servers > in Western Europe, the East coast, and the South coast of the United States. > However, when you want to buy a server in the Caribbean, Oceania, or African > countries outside of South Africa and Nigeria, I think the procurement > effort, maintenance, and service costs are much more complex than you can > imagine. > > We have some servers that cost $5, maybe a dozen. However, I really don't > want to use our financial investment in ProbeNet as a scale to show the > complexities of running an operation with 1,300 servers > > We currently PoP presence in ~520 ASNs. I think this fact largely > demonstrates that no VPN companies, nor any CDN companies, nor any companies > outside of crowdsourced research network have reached the level of network > diversity that we currently have. It is not 1,300 X $5 . > >> There are (a) geoip data providers, (b) geoip data users/buyers, and (c) >> networks in the middle that bear much of the cost of what a and c are doing. > > I am not sure I understand your logic: > - (a) IP geolocation data providers: IPinfo > - (b) IP geolocation data users/buyers: IPinfo Customers > - (c) Networks in the middle: You > > What (c) Networks in the middle are bearing the cost of (a) IPinfo and (c) > you are doing. I am not sure I understand the logic. What cost are we talking > about? > > — Abdullah | DevRel, IPinfo > _______________________________________________ > NANOG mailing list > https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/73CUGUBCU5FEHANW3I6AXJSHNROSASVD/ _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/HJBXITNQYV7APKTKTDUBRDV32K47BG6B/
