On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 04:46:01PM -0000, John Levine wrote: > VZW recently confirmed that their mail system is separate from VZ's, > and whatever mistakes they may make, they're not VZ's.
Okay, fine -- and a look at DNS seems to back this up (unless I'm missing something). And I've no desire to lay VZ's mistakes at VZW's feet, or vice versa -- but that still leaves whoever-is-affected (like the orginal poster or anyone else out there) to deal with the issues. And the lack of participation by VZ and VZW in the leading applicable forum (i.e. Spam-L) isn't helping. At least some of the other folks are engaged in dialogue with their peers, even if what they're saying isn't to everyone's liking. (As to Verizon itself, since three different people pointed out the relative lack of SBL listings: keep in mind that SBL listings are put in place for very specific reasons, and aren't the only indicator of spam. Other DNSBLs and RHSBLs, e.g. the CBL, use different criteria and thus provide different measurements (if you will) of spam. So, to give a sample data point, in the last week alone, there have been 315 spam attempts directed at *just this address* from 194 different IP addresses (list attached) that belong to VZ. Have I reported them? Of *course* not. What would be the point in that?) ---Rsk
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