Dear Mike, Regardless of very few direct answers, I found this discussion very interesting. I think one possible reason for not having any specific numbers, as some members have already pointed out, is there doesn’t exist any. As an outsider, with zero hands-on experience in ISP field apart from studying, my understanding is, ISPs just visualize their own traffic using monitoring tools and label themselves. I wish there were any literature on this topic. I’d love to read that. Thank you for your reply.
- Prasun Regards, Prasun Kanti Dey Ph.D. Candidate, Dept of Electrical and Computer Engineering, University of Central Florida web: https://prasunkantidey.github.io/portfolio/ > On Jun 20, 2019, at 10:16 AM, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote: > > The problem you're running into, Prasun, is that people either aren't > actually reading what you're saying or have poor comprehension skills. Very > few people are directly addressing what you're asking. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > From: "Prasun Dey" <pra...@nevada.unr.edu> > To: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 3:42:38 PM > Subject: Re: Traffic ratio of an ISP > > Josh, > That’s great. I’m assuming your traffic is mainly inbound. So, my question > is, do you have a threshold that defines your traffic ratio type. > I’m taking an example from this thread. Say, your average incoming traffic is > ~45 gbps, and outgoing traffic is ~4.5 gbps. So, your outbound:inbound = > 1:10. What are you? Heavy Inbound? > Extending this example, if your ratio is 1:7 or 1:6, then, what would you > claim to be? A ‘Mostly Inbound’? Or still call yourself as Heavy Inbound? I’m > just trying to understand what is the community practice? > Thank you. > > - > Prasun > > Regards, > Prasun Kanti Dey > Ph.D. Candidate, > Dept of Electrical and Computer Engineering, > University of Central Florida > web: https://prasunkantidey.github.io/portfolio/ > > > > > > > On Jun 19, 2019, at 4:23 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > > >my question was more like to understand when an ISP decides to claim itself > >as any of these (Heavy Outbound/ Inbound or Balanced) > > Maybe I'm missing something but it's as simple as looking at the interface > graphs. We see a whole lot of green for inbound and a little little blue > line for outbound. We are an ISP with residential and commercial customers. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > >> On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 4:20 PM Prasun Dey <pra...@nevada.unr.edu> wrote: >> Hi Martijn and Josh, >> Thank you for your detailed explanation. Let me explain my requirement so >> that you may help me better. >> According to PeeringDB, Charter (Access), Sprint (Transit), Amazon (Content) >> all three of them are ‘Balanced’. While, Cable One, an Access ISP says it is >> Heavy Inbound, while Akamai, Netflix (Content) are Heavy Outbound. On the >> other hand, Cox, another access ISP, it says that it is Mostly Inbound. >> So, my question was more like to understand when an ISP decides to claim >> itself as any of these (Heavy Outbound/ Inbound or Balanced)? From an ISP’s >> own point of view, at what point, it says, my outbound:inbound is something, >> so I’m Heavy Outbound. >> Please ignore my lack of knowledge in this area. I’m sorry I should’ve done >> a better job in formulating my question earlier. >> Thank you. >> >> - >> Prasun >> >> Regards, >> Prasun Kanti Dey >> Ph.D. Candidate, >> Dept of Electrical and Computer Engineering, >> University of Central Florida >> web: https://prasunkantidey.github.io/portfolio/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 19, 2019, at 2:13 PM, i3D.net - Martijn Schmidt >> <martijnschm...@i3d.net> wrote: >> >> It kinda depends on the application that's being used. For example, >> videogaming has a ratio somewhere around 1:2.5 since you're only >> transmitting metadata about the players environment across the wire. The >> actual video is typically rendered at the end user's side. So it's not very >> bandwidth heavy. >> >> Compare that with a videostream (watching a movie or TV series) and you're >> pumping the rendered video across the wire, so there's a very different >> ratio. Your return path traffic would pretty much consist of control stuff >> only (like pushing the pause button). >> >> Some networks are dedicated to serving one type of content, whereas others >> might have a blend of different kinds of content. Same story for an access >> network geared to business users which want to use emails and such, vs >> residential end users looking for the evening's entertainment. >> >> Best regards, >> Martijn >> >>> On 19 June 2019 19:54:45 CEST, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>> wrote: >>> If you're asking an ISP, consumers will always be inbound. It's the end >>> user. The outbound would be where the information is coming from, like >>> data centers. >>> >>> I'm not sure you're going to get any better answer without a more specific >>> question. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 12:50 PM Prasun Dey <pra...@nevada.unr.edu> wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> Good morning. >>>> I’m a Ph.D. candidate from University of Central Florida. I have a query, >>>> I hope you can help me with it or at least point me to the right direction. >>>> I’ve seen from PeeringDB that every ISP reveals its traffic ratio as >>>> Heavy/ Mostly Inbound or Balanced or Heavy/ Mostly Outbound. >>>> I’m wondering if there is any specific ratio numbers for them. In Norton’s >>>> Internet Peering Playbook or some other literary work, they mention the >>>> outbound:inbound traffic ratio as 1:1.2 to up to 1:3 for Balanced. But, I >>>> couldn’t find the other values. >>>> I’d really appreciate your help if you can please mention what >>>> Outbound:Inbound ratios that network admins use frequently to represent >>>> their traffic ratios for >>>> 1. Heavy Inbound: >>>> 2. Mostly Inbound: >>>> 3. Mostly Outbound: >>>> 4. Heavy Outbound: >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> - >>>> Prasun >>>> -- >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Prasun Kanti Dey, >>>> Ph.D. candidate, >>>> Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering, >>>> University of Central Florida. >> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> > >
