On 2019-10-01 15:22, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Tue, Oct 01, 2019 at 12:11:32PM +0200, > Jeroen Massar <jer...@massar.ch> wrote > a message of 101 lines which said: > >> - Using a centralized/forced-upon DNS service (be that over DoT/DoH >> or even plain old Do53 > > Yes, but people using a public DNS resolver (of a big US corporation) > over UDP is quite an old thing and nobody complained. I really wonder > why there was so little reaction against OpenDNS or Google Public DNS > and suddently a lot of outcry against DoH...
Those services the user decides on themselves. It is not a default in the browser. >> You might also want to look into this amazing thing called Tor if >> you really want privacy. > > I know it, and use it and it is awfully slow. Telling to people who > want privacy that they need to adopt the difficult and costly (in > performance) solutions made for iranian opponents won't help to > improve security. Then Tor is not for your purpose indeed. Use a VPN, or better switch ISP so that you do not keep paying an entity that you do not trust. >> Noting that many ISPs are deploying both DoT and DoH next to Do53. > > Fact-checking: could you name some? (I do not know even one.) https://www.as15600.net/ And there are many others who have announced it. Greets, Jeroen