"obvious reasons" 



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Mike Hammett 
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Midwest-IX 
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From: "Antonios Chariton" <daknob....@gmail.com> 
To: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 3:47:58 AM 
Subject: Re: Wikipedia drops support for old Android smartphones; mandates 
TLSv1.2 to read 

Ignoring the obvious reasons why TLS is needed and HTTP should not be used, I 
guess people who want an HTTP version of Wikipedia that is read-only and 
knowingly insecure, censorable, modifiable, etc. can donate a few million 
dollars to the Wikimedia Foundation, before the tax year is over, for the 
engineers, infrastructure, and everything, and write a special note, and maybe 
Wikipedia may consider this.. Worst case, you just funded a secure encyclopedia 
and helped it grow in 2020 and years to come.. :) 



Let’s see those receipts coming! 




On 31 Dec 2019, at 09:50, Ryan Hamel < r...@rkhtech.org > wrote: 


Just let the old platforms ride off into the sunset as originally planned like 
the SSL implementations in older JRE installs, XP, etc. You shouldn't be 
holding onto the past. 


Ryan 


On Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 12:41 AM Constantine A. Murenin < muren...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 

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On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 at 02:29, Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > 
wrote: 


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Why do I need Wikipedia SSLed? I know the argument. But if it doesn’t work why 
not either let it fall back to 1.0 or to HTTP. 

This seems like security for no valid reason. 


Exactly. I used the wording from their own page; but I think it's actually 
misleading. They're actually going out of their way to prevent users of "old 
Android smartphones" from accessing Wikipedia; if they did nothing, everyone 
would still be able to read happily over HTTP. 


C. 

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