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Note this thread is not in the spirit of the guidelines for operational and technical content discussion. +1’s, here-here’s, and the back and forth mudslinging are not the type of lively discussions this list is in existence for. If you feel this message is in error, please reach out to adm...@nanog.org <mailto:adm...@nanog.org> to discuss. This message is being sent based on guideline 15: The Mailing List is not an appropriate platform to resolve personal issues, engage in disputes, or file complaints. Cheers, Valerie Valerie Wittkop - NANOG Program Director 305 E. Eisenhower Pkwy, Suite 100, Ann Arbor, MI 48108 Tel: +1 866 902 1336, ext 103 > On Nov 16, 2020, at 11:40 AM, Rob McEwen <r...@invaluement.com> wrote: > > On 11/16/2020 9:54 AM, Tom Beecher wrote: >> I would like to formally request that Mr. Cohen's privileges to post to this >> list be revoked, or otherwise curtailed. > > > +1 > > Several months ago, Elad Cohen went on record claiming that I was secretly > "Rob Shultz" from Spamhaus - an outrageous lie. (Spamhaus is actually my > competitor... and I've only ever known a few people there - and not even that > well.) What I had to do to (somewhat!) clear my name - so that the average > person who doesn't know me could tell with a high degree of certainty that > Elad Cohen lies about me weren't true - took away many hours out of my life > and got me in trouble with maawg for discussing too many details about the > people at maawg events whom I had interacted with (to show that me and this > other Rob couldn't possibly be the same person). Note that I barely know "Rob > Shultz", and hadn't even heard of "Rob Shultz" until AFTER I saw Cohen's > accusation. I don't think that "Rob Shultz" is a bad person at all - from > what little I know about him - but these accusations could potentially cause > frustration/confusion in the niche market served by both invaluement (my > company) and Spamhaus. The way Elad Cohen pushes ludicrous/unfounded > conspiracy theories that are easily proven false - makes me question his > mental heath. Ironically, at the same time, I'm actually somewhat of an > *EXTREMIST* when it comes to free-speech and the free flow of ideas. I > absolutely hate it when others shut down opposing ideas due to being > "offended". But what makes this case DIFFERENT - is that I draw a line at > slander/libel. I gave Elad Cohen every opportunity to prove his accusations - > and he wasn't able to. And, again, what I had to explain about my meetings > with people (aka "witnesses") at maawg - to prove that Elad was lying - > caused me irreparable damage with maawg. His slander/libel is damaging to > others. He doesn't add any value (at least, none that I can find) - he only > harms other people in malicous ways. > > -- > Rob McEwen, invaluement >
