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> On Oct 21, 2021, at 11:15, Kain, Becki (.) <bka...@ford.com> wrote: > > I'm just kidding. I wasn't on until 1990 when I was teaching IBM 370 > assembler > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mel Beckman <m...@beckman.org> > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 12:12 PM > To: Kain, Becki (.) <bka...@ford.com> > Cc: Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com>; b...@theworld.com; nanog <nanog@nanog.org> > Subject: Re: Network visibility > > Becki, > > I was on ARPANET through the USDA in the 1980s. So, not that old :) > > -mel > > >> On Oct 21, 2021, at 9:04 AM, Kain, Becki (.) <bka...@ford.com> wrote: >> >> How old are all you people? >> >> 😊 >> >> (JK) >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+bkain1=ford....@nanog.org> On Behalf Of >> Owen DeLong via NANOG >> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 11:43 AM >> To: b...@theworld.com >> Cc: nanog@nanog.org >> Subject: Re: Network visibility >> >> WARNING: This message originated outside of Ford Motor Company. Use caution >> when opening attachments, clicking links, or responding. >> >> >>>> On Oct 20, 2021, at 14:19 , b...@theworld.com wrote: >>> >>> >>> On October 20, 2021 at 16:08 m...@beckman.org (Mel Beckman) wrote: >>>> Mark, >>>> >>>> Before 1983, the ARPANET wasn’t an internet, let alone The Internet. >>>> Each ARPANET connection required a host-specific interface (the >>>> “IMP”) and simplex Network Control Protocol (NCP). NCP used users' >>>> email addresses, and routing had to be specified in advance within each >>>> NCP message. >> >> I think you mean before 1982. >> >> TCP/IP was deployed starting in 1982. NCP was deprecated (removed from >> the >> ARPANET) January 1, 1983, but TCP/IP was implemented (and deployed) prior to >> that. >> >>> >>> Then again there were IMPs fitted to various systems like TOPS-10, >>> ITS, Vax/BSD Unix, IBM370, etc. >>> >>> So was that really all that different from ethernet vs, oh, wi-fi or >>> fiber today, you needed an adapter? >> >> It really wasn’t, but even if you just want to count from TCP/IP forward, >> 1983 isn’t the correct date. 1983 was when we turned off NCP. It wasn’t when >> we turned on TCP/IP. The turn on of TCP/IP occurred over several months, so >> there’s no particular date that can be assigned to it. >> >> Owen >> >> >
