Let’s be clear, this is not a 5G issue. LTE in the space spectrum would be an issue.
This is a spectrum issue. Only. Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC CEO l...@6by7.net "The only fully end-to-end encrypted global telecommunications company in the world.” FCC License KJ6FJJ Sent from my iPhone via RFC1149. > On Jan 18, 2022, at 2:15 PM, Mel Beckman <m...@beckman.org> wrote: > > Apples and oranges Michael. The US domestic aviation environment is quite > different than even Europe or and especially smaller countries overseas. And > how long has 5G been out anyway? I hardly think that’s been available for > enough of a safety track record in any country. > > -mel via cell > >>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 2:06 PM, Mel Beckman <m...@beckman.org> wrote: >>> >> Shane, >> >> Incorrect. Owning spectrum also includes the right to interference-free >> operation. And you imply that the FAA and airline industry has done nothing, >> when in reality it’s the FCC who has done nothing. the FAA sponsored >> extensive engineering tests that demonstrate the interference is a concern, >> and they notified all the parties well in advance. The fCC et al chose to do >> no research of their own, and are basing all their assumptions on operation >> in other countries, which even you must admit can’t really be congruent with >> the US. >> >> -mel via cell >> >>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 2:01 PM, sro...@ronan-online.com wrote: >>> >>> The thing is aviation DOESN’T own this spectrum, they just assumed it >>> would always be unused. And they failed to mention it would be a problem >>> during the last 5 years of discussion regarding the use of this spectrum. >>> >>> Shane >>> >>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 4:25 PM, Mel Beckman <m...@beckman.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Michael, >>>> >>>> Here’s a recent PCmag editorial on the subject, and it seems like many >>>> people want to put Internet speed above airline safety: >>>> >>>> https://www.pcmag.com/news/faa-goes-in-hard-to-kill-mid-band-5g >>>> >>>> This issue definitely impacts network operations for 5G providers, so >>>> makes sense to discuss here. >>>> >>>> Here’s a comment from a friend of mine who has been both a network >>>> engineer and a pilot for United Airlines, posted on the article linked >>>> above: >>>> >>>> “As a pilot, I can tell you that landing in instrument conditions is by >>>> far the most critical flight regime possible, during which the radar >>>> altimeter reports are a matter of life and death. There is no alternative >>>> technology, such as GPS, with the required accuracy and reliability, to >>>> provide approach guidance down to the runway in zero-zero weather, which >>>> is what the radar altimeter does. >>>> >>>> The collective tech industry needs to admit that it made a huge blunder >>>> when it urged the FCC’s clueless Ajit Pai to “blow off” the clearly >>>> demonstrated FAA spectrum conflict. Sorry, passengers, but if you look out >>>> your window, you’ll see that aviation owns this spectrum and is entitled >>>> to interference-free operation. Replacing all radar altimeters isn’t going >>>> to happen in time for 5G anyway — it took more than ten years just to >>>> deploy anti-collision technology. So do what you should have done from the >>>> beginning: follow the FCC rules of non-interference to existing users, who >>>> have clear priority in this case.” >>>> >>>> I tend to agree with him, and it looks like the 5G providers and FAA >>>> agreed last week to put some buffer safety zones around runway approaches >>>> at 50 major airports: >>>> >>>> https://www.cnet.com/news/faa-lists-50-airports-getting-temporary-buffer-zones-blocking-new-5g-signals/ >>>> >>>> >>>> -mel >>>> >>>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 12:33 PM, Michael Thomas <m...@mtcc.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I really don't know anything about it. It seems really late to be having >>>>> this fight now, right? >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>>
