Sounds like you’ve never lived in an HOA.

> On Feb 19, 2022, at 11:09 AM, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote:
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> "A single customer who has no sway over an entire HOA"
> 
> If you can't sway the whole HOA, then the problem must not be that bad.
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> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> The Brothers WISP
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> From: "Cory Sell via NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org>
> To: "Mike Lyon" <mike.l...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 7:16:37 PM
> Subject: Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections
> 
> See this is my point. People always dismiss these issues and say they could 
> easily get service. Then, when someone comes in with an actual request for 
> said service, the answer we get is about structured deals with HOA/property 
> management. What about for a single customer? A single customer who has no 
> sway over an entire HOA, a single customer who is told to go “pound sand” by 
> the property manager.
> 
> If you can’t give a single figure or even rough numbers for a single 
> customer, I’d say avoid dismissing the problem. If you can provide that now, 
> I’d be very curious to still see them. :)
> 
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 7:10 PM, Mike Lyon <mike.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Depends on many factors…
> 
> If the whole HOA wanted service, then a licensed link could possibly be put 
> in delivering a high capacity circuit delivering about 100 Mbps to the 
> subscriber. Price to the customer would vary depending on how the deal is 
> structured with the HOA/property management company.
> 
> Could also look into getting some fiber delivered and feed it from that.
> 
> -Mike 
> 
> On Feb 16, 2022, at 17:02, Cory Sell <corys...@protonmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  Out of pure curiosity, let’s assume they COULD put an antenna on the roof…
> 
> What is the service? Bandwidth, latency expectation, cost?
> 
> Note that in almost every condominium or apartment complex I have heard of, 
> they do NOT allow roof builds. This is why satellite TV in those areas 
> require people to put an antenna on their patio, even if it’s half-blocked.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 6:51 PM, Mike Lyon <mike.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If they allow antennas on the roof, we can service them :)
> 
> Your house, on the other hand, we already lucked out on that one!
> 
> -Mike Lyon
> Ridge Wireless
> 
> On Feb 16, 2022, at 16:48, Matthew Petach <mpet...@netflight.com> wrote:
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>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 1:16 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
>> wrote:
>> I'll once again please ask for specific examples as I continue to see the 
>> generic "it isn't in some parts of San Jose".
> 
> 
> You want a specific example?
> 
> Friend of mine asked me to help them get better Internet connectivity a few 
> weeks ago.
> 
> They live here:
> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Meridian+Woods+Condos/@37.3200394,-121.9792261,17.47z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x808fca909a8f5605:0x399cdd468d99300c!8m2!3d37.3190694!4d-121.9818295
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> Just off of I-280 in the heart of San Jose.
> 
> I dug and dug, and called different companies.
> The only service they can get there is the 768K DSL service they already have 
> with AT&T.
> 
> Go ahead.  Try it for yourself.
> 
> See what service you can order to those condos.
> 
> Heart of Silicon Valley.  
> 
> Worse connectivity than many rural areas.   :(
> 
> Matt
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