All of this. The reason that the proposal is always worded "Permanent
Daylight Savings Time" is that there are a non-trivial number of people
who genuinely believe that with DST we get more sunlight. Not more
sunlight during the hours when most people are awake, literally more
sunlight.
In a world where institutional hours don't change, (schools, workplaces,
etc.) DST actually makes sense because it more closely aligns the ideas
of "morning" and "evening" with most people's schedules. For the most
part people complaining about the change are actually reacting to the
lengthening and/or shortening daylight hours. The fixed point to change
the clocks just gives them something to focus on.
Keeping everything on standard time and adjusting schedules makes the
most sense for letting kids travel too and from with the most daylight
possible; but taking just the example of working parents, they would
need all of their kids' schools to agree to the same change, as well as
their workplace.
Alas, the true solution is education.
On 3/15/22 3:09 PM, Matthew Huff wrote:
They don't want their names on it when what happened in the 70s happens again.
The effect of setting everything to DST and staying there is that in the
winter, especially in the norther latitude it will be pitch dark during most of
the morning when children get picked up at school bus stops. When the tragedy
happens again, and it will, they will end up undoing this again...
History repeats itself, first as a tragedy, then as a farce...
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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+mhuff=ox....@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Jay R. Ashworth
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 5:30 PM
To: Tom Beecher <beec...@beecher.cc>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org list <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: "Permanent" DST
Oh. This was "Unanimous Consent"? AKA "I want to vote for this, but *I do not want
to be held responsible for having voted for it when it blows up*?"
I'd missed that; thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Beecher" <beec...@beecher.cc>
To: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 5:04:02 PM
Subject: Re: "Permanent" DST
I would say if something passes the United States Senate in our
current political environment by unanimous consent (which this did) ,
I kinda feel like there won't be a ton of issues with everybody
figuring out how to line themselves up appropriately.
On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 5:01 PM Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
That is true but at present everything business related in BC has a
clear expectation of being in the same time zone as WA/OR/CA, and AB
matches US Mountain time.
On Tue, 15 Mar 2022 at 13:35, Paul Ebersman <list-nan...@dragon.net>
wrote:
eric> If Canada doesn't do the same thing at the same time, it'll be
eric> a real hassle, dealing with a change from -8 to -7 crossing
eric> the border between BC and WA, for instance. It has to be done
eric> consistently throughout North America.
You must not have ever dealt with Indiana, where it was DST or not
by choice per county. It wasn't quite the cluster***k you'd think.
