On Jun 9, 2010, at 8:26 AM, Brielle Bruns wrote: > On 6/9/10 6:27 AM, Jorge Amodio wrote: >> Going back then to a previous question, do we want more/any regulation ? > > Laws and regulation exist because people can't behave civilly and be expected > to respect the rights/boundries/property others. > > CAN-SPAM exists because the e-mail marketing business refused to self > regulate and respect the wishes of consumers/administrators > Which is good, because it certainly eliminated most of the SPAM. -- NOT!
> FDCPA exists because the debt collectors couldn't resist the temptation to > harass and intimidate consumers, and behave ethically. > And of course, it has caused them all to do so, now, right? -- NOT! > > > It's just a matter of time, and really unavoidable. The thing is, these > industries have no one to blame but themselves. In all cases, these > laws/regulation only came into affect AFTER situations got out of control. > Software has been out of control for a long time and I hope that the gov't will start by ruling the "not responsible for our negligence or the damage it causes" clauses of software licenses invalid. That would actually be a major positive step because it would allow consumers to sue software manufacturers for their defects and the damages they cause leading to a radical change in the nature of how software developers approach responsibility for quality in their products. Right now, most consumer operating systems are "unsafe at any speed". > Lately, the courts have been ruling that companies like LimeWire are > responsible for their products being used for piracy/downloading because they > knew what was going on, but were turning a blind eye. > This is a positive step, IMHO, but, now companies like Apple and Micr0$0ft need to be held to similar standards. > Why not apply the same standards to ISPs? If it can be shown that you had > knowledge of specific abuse coming from your network, but for whatever > reason, opted to ignore it and turn a blind eye, then you are responsible. > I agree. > When I see abuse from my network or am made aware of it, I isolate and drop > on my edge the IPs in question, then investigate and respond. Most times, it > takes me maybe 10-15 minutes to track down the user responsible, shut off > their server or host, then terminate their stupid self. > Yep. > A little bit of effort goes a long way. But, if you refuse to put in the > effort (I'm looking at you, GoDaddy Abuse Desk), then of course the problems > won't go away. > Agreed. Owen
