Quick FYI - ARIN has a documented appeals process that an organization can use if they believe that ARIN staff did not follow community-established policies in the review of their resource request. Here is the link:
https://www.arin.net/resources/resource_requests/appeal_process.html Regards, Leslie Leslie Nobile Director, Registration Services American Registry for Internet Numbers On 10/19/10 2:21 PM, "Owen DeLong" <o...@delong.com> wrote: > > On Oct 19, 2010, at 7:09 AM, Jack Bates wrote: > >> On 10/19/2010 4:29 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: >>>> >>> No... ARIN hands out a MINIMUM /32. A medium sized ISP should be asking for >>> larger. >>> >> >> ME: I really need larger space >> ARIN: We don't see how you can justify it, and we hardly ever give larger >> than /32 >> > Did you send them a customer count exceeding about 25,000 customers and point > out that > you were giving /48s to each of them? If you did, they would not have had a > leg to stand on. > > However, there has been a bit of a learning curve with ARIN staff and IPv6, > so, there have > been some errant denials. I'm working on policy to further expand their > ability to approve > larger allocations. Expect to see it posted in the next week or so. > >> THE END >> >>> or, if you have larger POPs, start with a /24 and >>> /32 regional assignment supporting 256 regional assignments >>> /36 for 16 pops per region >>> /48 for 4,096 customer end-sites per POP >> >> Ideal solution, but don't see it happening >> > Why not? > >>> ARIN thinks a /32 is the MINIMUM for an ISP. Not the Maximum. Several ISPs >>> have received larger than /32 and all you need to do is show a reasonable >>> justification for the space. >> >> See above. You think I asked for a /32? While I'd probably desire a /24 for >> ease of routing and management, I'd only asked for a /31 and was turned down >> with the "Very few will get more than a /32." >> > When did you ask? If it was more than 6 months ago, then, I would suggest > asking again. If it was less than 6 > months ago, can you send me any or all of the correspondence so I can address > it with Leslie and try and > get whatever training issues remain resolved? > >> Hey, perhaps I'm wrong. Perhaps I asked too early, even though I purposefully >> delayed asking. >> > If ARIN is incorrectly denying requests, I'll definitely work on getting that > resolved. > >> and from your other reply: >> >>> Yep... Best not to argue with Jack... A much better strategy, IMHO, is to >>> better serve his former customers. >> >> Good luck on that. My customers like my service and the lengths we go for >> them. Obviously, there are always those who are discontent, but we listen to >> what they want and need, and we make it happen. Feel free to come to rural >> Oklahoma and compete. The prefix rotation argument has been covered before, >> which is why I'd rather keep it to the original argument and probably >> shouldn't have mentioned it since it always creates a side topic. >> > The beauty is that we don't have to come to rural OK to compete. We can just > let them use whatever stingy amount > of address space you provide to get a tunnel to us. > > Owen > >
