On Feb 8, 2012, at 2:56 PM, bas wrote:

> The big drawback with S/RTBH is that it is a DoS method in itself.

I'm not an advocate of *automated* S/RTBH, and I am an advocate of whitelisting 
various well-known 'golden networks/IPs' via prefix-lists in order to avoid 
this issue in part; also, note that the concept of partial service recovery 
incorporates the notion of some legitimate traffic/users being blocked in order 
to maintain the availability of the targeted server/service/application for the 
majority of legitimate traffic/users. 

Also note that S/RTBH isn't a universal panacea; it's just one tool in the 
toolbox.  flowspec is more flexible due to its layer-4 granularity; and other 
types of tools such as IDMS are even more flexible and incorporate much richer 
classification technology.

It's important to understand that this isn't a theoretical discussion - I've 
personally utilized/helped others to utilize S/RTBH to successfully mitigate 
large-scale DDoS attacks, and it's a lowest-common-denominator in terms of a 
somewhat dynamic mitigation mechanism.  Let's not make the perfect the enemy of 
the merely good.

;>

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