On October 10, 2013 at 12:35 ma...@isc.org (Mark Andrews) wrote:
 > 
 > Yes that comes with the risk of additional spam but get over it and
 > run proper abuse desks.

With all due respect I don't think you have an inkling of the
magnitude of the spam problem if you can say something like this. And
what does it have to do with recipient ISP abuse desks?

Your basic point is well taken, it would be better if everyone could
do end to end TLS etc. Not so much to evade the NSA (probably hopeless
for most people) but the more run of the mill snooper.

It's all just an arms race.

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