This assumes installing a single home on demand. In reality, if you’re going to implement what Jay and I are suggesting, then you dig up a neighborhood at a time and drop a bunch of strands of fiber (I’d guess 8 or 16 as likely numbers) per household.
Owen On Mar 24, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Naslund, Steve <[email protected]> wrote: > Thinking about this again, let's take Jay at his word that he can make a > "passing" for $700-800. Unfortunately, the ISP or service provider does not > pay for a passing, they pay for an entry. After all we can't let them make > their own entry or we will have everyone and their brother in our splice > case. We will also have third world aerial spaghetti as they all run their > own drop cables using God knows who as "skilled labor". I will take my home > here in residential Chicago as a best case example because the neighborhood > is dense. All of our utilities here are aerial so there are no underground > conduits available to you. I assume to keep costs down you are going to try > to use what's there and go aerial. If you are in the suburbs that cable is > all underground so at a minimum you will need a directional boring machine > and put in the necessary pedestals and hand holes. In this county you are > required to use conduit every time you go under a public street as well. I > digress though, let's take the easy case. > > 1. You need to decide how many strands you are going to drop to my home. > You could drop a single fiber or pair but then you have to put mux equipment > on the end of it. After all I want choice and that might include TV from > provider X, phone from provider Y, and high speed data from provider Z. > > 2. Since you are the sole provider of the physical layer, you now have to > roll a two man crew with a bucket truck and an experienced splicer. By the > way, this is Chicago so we have to have a two man crew at a minimum and they > are both IBEW union contractors since this city will NEVER hire non-union > labor. Figure they might have a 20-30 minute drive here is traffic > cooperates. They get paid hourly so they don't much care how long it takes > but let's say they are feeling frisky today and only take about two hours on > the job itself plus the hour of travel. > > 3. Let's assume that the best case exists and the splice case is directly in > my alley behind my house. Your crew needs to splice a drop cable in at the > splice case (you did pay to install the splice cases right?) and run it about > 100 ft to the back of my house and anchor it to my brick home at the > prescribed height above ground. You can't get the bucket truck in my yard so > they break out the extension ladder. In most case though the splice case > will not be that close and certainly can't afford to put a case at every home > at $700 per passing. So in reality that cable probably runs to the alley and > several poles down the block, they have to anchor that cable at every poll so > Tarzan can't use your fiber for fun. > > 4. Now that they have the cable at my house you have to place a MPOE > (minimum point of entry) device on my house. That box probably costs a > couple bucks and has to be anchored into brick. > > Are we getting closer to that $2,400 per home yet? What if this is the > suburbs and you have to direct bury enough cable to reach the pedestal on the > corner and cross my one acre lot with it? > > Steven Naslund > Chicago IL > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jay Ashworth [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 12:25 PM > To: NANOG > Subject: Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica > > ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Steve Naslund" <[email protected]> > >>> What do you mean by average monthly bill? That is the issue here. The >>> average monthly bill includes the services you are getting. In the >>> Chicago area a fiber optic access circuit unbundled from the >>> imcumbent carrier to a competitive carrier is something like $10 a month or >>> so. >>> How could you possibly think you can fund a build out in a new area >>> for that price? It may be possible to pay for that over 20 years. The >> problem is that no one goes into business to break even over 20 years. > >> Well, Steve, happens we had this conversation in some detail last year when >> I was up for a City IT director position, and contemplating fibering >> 12,000 passings. > >> The magic number is apparently $700-800 per passing, not the $2400 you seem >> to suggest... >
