> On Jul 11, 2014, at 10:31 PM, Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> wrote: > > > On Jul 11, 2014, at 8:18 PM, Randy Bush <ra...@psg.com> wrote: > >>>> And, for the record, it's pretty widely acknowledge that "The World" >>>> (Barry Shein) was the world's first commercial ISP - offering shell >>>> access in 1989, and at some point started offering PPP dial-up >>>> services. As I recall, they were a UUnet POP. >>> yep. and uunet and psi were hallucinations. can we please not rewrite >>> well-known history? >>> or are you equating shell access with isp? that would be novel. unix >>> shell != internet. >> >> btw, not do denigrate what barry did. a commercial unix bbs connected >> to the real internet was significant. the left coasties were doing free >> stuff, the well, community memory, ... and barry created a viable bbs >> commercial service which still survives (i presume). a significant >> achievement. >> >> randy > > Not to take away from Barry, but around that same time, some of us left > coasts were also helping to build Netcom as a viable commercial entity > providing shell and later PPP and dedicated line access (DS0, T1). > > Owen
...and CRL, and shortly after Netcom came Scruznet, and ... (Still giggling at how many times CRL got the intersection of Market/Geary/Kearny dug up in the early 90s bringing fiber in...). George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone