True. I know a number of average users that also do what I am doing, however.
Owen > On Jan 8, 2016, at 11:42 , Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: > > You are not the average user. > > On Jan 8, 2016 1:39 PM, "Owen DeLong" <o...@delong.com > <mailto:o...@delong.com>> wrote: > Only if the 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz networks are on the same SSID. > > I don’t do that… I maintain separate 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz SSIDs. This allows me to > know > which one I am on and force when desirable (usually forcing 5Ghz is > desirable). > > Owen > >> On Jan 8, 2016, at 11:03 , Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com >> <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote: >> >> Customer devices will see the higher signal on the 2.4GHz AP and simply >> connect to that, especially as they roam through the house. Most don't pay >> attention to SNR at all. >> >> On Jan 8, 2016 12:53 PM, "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net >> <mailto:na...@ics-il.net>> wrote: >> I think that was Josh's point, that 5 GHz will likely deliver better RF >> performance than 2.4 (despite physics) due to the amount of interference in >> 2.4. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> http://www.midwest-ix.com <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> From: "Owen DeLong" <o...@delong.com <mailto:o...@delong.com>> >> To: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> >> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>>, nanog-...@mail.com >> <mailto:nanog-...@mail.com> >> Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 12:46:37 PM >> Subject: Re: GPON vs. GEPON >> >> > Count in oversubscription rates for residential, and consider that most >> > people, despite what they say or think, will end up on 2.4GHz wireless in >> > the home due to 5GHz sucking more than a room away - that ends up being a >> > very scalable solution for residential service. >> >> Um… 5GHz works a lot better from one end of my house to the other than 2.4Ghz >> due (in large part) to this fact… Almost every one of my neighbors is using >> various 2.4GHz devices including about 45 external SSIDs visible from the >> center of my house using the on-board antenna of an ESP8266 board from >> Adafruit. >> >> The noise floor and congestion on 2.4GHz in many urban settings, especially >> here >> in Silicon Valley makes 5Ghz a much better option in any home where people >> are >> smart enough to pay attention to the difference. >> >> OTOH, since the WiFi consortium took away the ability for consumers to easily >> differentiate (it’s all “n” or “ac” now regardless of frequency) and you have >> to really read the fine print on the side of the box to find a 5Ghz capable >> WAP at your local big box store, most consumers end up on 2.4Ghz because >> those >> are the least expensive routers on the shelf. >> >> Personally, I don’t mind this, but I think the 2.4Ghz prevalence has more to >> do >> with consumers not knowing what they are buying than it does with >> performance. >> >> Owen >> >> >