True, but most households are not using a reputable enterprise wireless solution.
Owen > On Jan 8, 2016, at 11:46 , Chris Adams (IT) <chris.ad...@ung.edu> wrote: > > Most reputable enterprise wireless solutions employ band-steering which helps > to "force" users onto 5ghz, but still allows clients to connect to 2.4 if > it's the only SSID strong enough or if the client only supports 2.4ghz. Band > steering largely negates the need to run two SSIDs for optimal band selection. > > Chris > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Owen DeLong > Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 2:39 PM > To: Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > Cc: nanog-...@mail.com; NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> > Subject: Re: GPON vs. GEPON > > Only if the 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz networks are on the same SSID. > > I don’t do that… I maintain separate 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz SSIDs. This allows me to > know which one I am on and force when desirable (usually forcing 5Ghz is > desirable). > > Owen > >> On Jan 8, 2016, at 11:03 , Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: >> >> Customer devices will see the higher signal on the 2.4GHz AP and simply >> connect to that, especially as they roam through the house. Most don't pay >> attention to SNR at all. >> >> On Jan 8, 2016 12:53 PM, "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net >> <mailto:na...@ics-il.net>> wrote: >> I think that was Josh's point, that 5 GHz will likely deliver better RF >> performance than 2.4 (despite physics) due to the amount of interference in >> 2.4. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> http://www.midwest-ix.com <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> From: "Owen DeLong" <o...@delong.com <mailto:o...@delong.com>> >> To: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com >> <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> >> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>>, >> nanog-...@mail.com <mailto:nanog-...@mail.com> >> Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 12:46:37 PM >> Subject: Re: GPON vs. GEPON >> >>> Count in oversubscription rates for residential, and consider that >>> most people, despite what they say or think, will end up on 2.4GHz >>> wireless in the home due to 5GHz sucking more than a room away - >>> that ends up being a very scalable solution for residential service. >> >> Um… 5GHz works a lot better from one end of my house to the other than >> 2.4Ghz due (in large part) to this fact… Almost every one of my >> neighbors is using various 2.4GHz devices including about 45 external >> SSIDs visible from the center of my house using the on-board antenna of an >> ESP8266 board from Adafruit. >> >> The noise floor and congestion on 2.4GHz in many urban settings, >> especially here in Silicon Valley makes 5Ghz a much better option in >> any home where people are smart enough to pay attention to the difference. >> >> OTOH, since the WiFi consortium took away the ability for consumers to >> easily differentiate (it’s all “n” or “ac” now regardless of >> frequency) and you have to really read the fine print on the side of >> the box to find a 5Ghz capable WAP at your local big box store, most >> consumers end up on 2.4Ghz because those are the least expensive routers on >> the shelf. >> >> Personally, I don’t mind this, but I think the 2.4Ghz prevalence has >> more to do with consumers not knowing what they are buying than it does with >> performance. >> >> Owen >> >> >