On our VOIP service we include US, Canada and Puerto Rico as "local" calling.
Regards, Ray Orsini – CEO Orsini IT, LLC – Technology Consultants VOICE DATA BANDWIDTH SECURITY SUPPORT P: 305.967.6756 x1009 E: r...@orsiniit.com TF: 844.OIT.VOIP 7900 NW 155th Street, Suite 103, Miami Lakes, FL 33016 http://www.orsiniit.com | View My Calendar | View/Pay Your Invoices | View Your Tickets -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+ray=orsiniit....@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Larry Sheldon Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 3:11 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences On 4/20/2016 10:15, Owen DeLong wrote: > >> On Apr 20, 2016, at 7:59 AM, Jean-Francois Mezei >> <jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca> wrote: >> >> On 2016-04-20 10:52, Owen DeLong wrote: >> >>> For the most part, “long distance” calls within the US are a thing >>> of the past and at least one mobile carrier now treats US/CA/MX as a >>> single local calling area >> >> >> Is this a case of telcos having switched to IP trunks and can reach >> other carriers for "free" >> >> Or are wholesale long distance still billed between carriers but at >> prices so low that they can afford to offer "free" long distance at >> retail level ? > > I think it boiled down to a recognition that the costs of billing were > beginning to account for something like $0.99 of every $1 billed. I wonder if the costs of avoiding-preventing-investigating toll fraud final grow to consume the profit in the product. I know that long ago there were things that I thought were insanely silly. A few examples: As an ordinary citizen I was amused and annoyed, in the case where a toll charge had been contested (and perforce refunded) there would often be several non-revenue calls to the protesting number asking whoever answered if they knew anybody in the called city, or if they knew who the called number belonged to. (Proper answer in any case: Who or what I know is none of your business.) Often there would calls to the called number (super irritating because the error was in the recording--later learned to be poor handwriting) asking the reciprocal questions except that often they had no idea that a call had been made. I was a Toll Transmissionman for a number or years back in the last iceage and one of the onerous tasks the supervisor had was "verifying the phone bill" which might be a stack as much as six inches tall. The evening shift supervisor (or one of them in a large office, like Los Angeles 1 Telegraph, where I worked for a while) would go through the bill, line by line, page by page, looking at the called number an d if he recognized it and placing a check mark next to it, If he did not recognize it, he would search the many lists in the office to see it was shown, and adding a check mark if a list showed it for a likely sounding legal call. If that didn't work he would probably have to call the number to see who answered (adding a wasted revenue-call path to the wreckage). Most often it would turn out to be the home telephone number of a repair supervisor in West Sweatsock, Montana, who had been called because a somebody who protested the policy that the repairman going fishing meant some problem would not be addressed for several days. So he put a check mark next to the number and moved on. Which meant the number would show up on the next month's bill. And it would again not be recognized from memory. And so forth and so on. Until eventually, after several months, the number would be recognized, check-marked without drama, and disappear forever from the bill. Lastly, in later years I was assigned to the the Revenue Accounting organization (to write programs for printing telephone books) and came to realize that there were a LOT of people in RA working with a LOT of people in the Chief Special Agents organization using a LOT of computer time to analyze Toll records for fraud patterns. Oops, not quite lastly.... Looking back at my Toll Plant days in the heyday of Captain Crunch--there were a lot engineering hours redesigning Toll equipment, and plant hours modifying or replacing equipment do defeat the engineering efforts of the Blue Box Boys. -- "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." --Albert Einstein
