> They deserve all the bad publicity that comes with such a anti-customer decision and the blame for their implementation choices cannot be passed back to the content providers.
Content Providers: Block VPN and tunnel services. Netflix: That really isn't the best way of doing this Content Providers: I don't care, do it or we pull our content. Someone here from BBC effectively said the exact same thing. Netflix has no where near enough original content to have their providers all pull out. *Spencer Ryan* | Senior Systems Administrator | sr...@arbor.net *Arbor Networks* +1.734.794.5033 (d) | +1.734.846.2053 (m) www.arbornetworks.com On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Scott Morizot <tmori...@gmail.com> wrote: > Nonsense. That is hardly their only option as many others have pointed out. > It's a deliberate and technically lazy choice to block 6in4 tunnels. Those > are not even vaguely the same thing as a VPN. They've decided to break > normal IPv6 support and do so in a way that does not even fall back to > IPv4. They deserve all the bad publicity that comes with such a > anti-customer decision and the blame for their implementation choices > cannot be passed back to the content providers. > > Scott > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Matthew Huff <mh...@ox.com> wrote: > > > Netflix IS acting in their user's best interest. In order to provide > > content that the user's want, the content providers have mandated that > they > > do their due diligence to block out of region users including VPN and > open > > tunnel access. As Hulu and Amazon prime become more popular and their > > contracts with the content provides come due, they will have to also. > > > > You can argue about the content provides business model all you want, but > > Netflix has to do what they are doing. They aren't blocking IPv6 users, > > they are blocking users that are using VPNs and/or tunnels since their > > currently is no practical way of providing GEOIP information about that > > users that the content providers require. > > > > > > ---- > > Matthew Huff | 1 Manhattanville Rd > > Director of Operations | Purchase, NY 10577 > > OTA Management LLC | Phone: 914-460-4039 > > aim: matthewbhuff | Fax: 914-694-5669 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Scott > Morizot > > > Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 10:50 AM > > > To: Mark Tinka <mark.ti...@seacom.mu> > > > Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org> > > > Subject: Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed > > > > > > I have Hulu Plus and Amazon Prime. The only thing I would miss from > > > Netflix > > > is their Marvel original series. And I can live with that. I can't live > > > without my IPv6 enabled home network and Internet connection since > > > that's > > > an essential part of my job. (I'm the IPv6 transition technical lead > > > for a > > > large organization.) While I actually manage my home internet gateway > > > through a linux server and have fine-grained control over the firewall > > > rules, I'm still debating whether I care enough about a handful of > > > series > > > to continue paying a company that is deliberately acting against its > > > users' > > > interests. Right now I'm leaning toward no. But I'll discuss it with my > > > wife before making a final decision. > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 8:03 AM, Mark Tinka <mark.ti...@seacom.mu> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/Jun/16 01:45, Damian Menscher wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who are these non-technical Netflix users who accidentally stumbled > > > into > > > > > having a HE tunnel broker connection without their knowledge? I > > > wasn't > > > > > aware this sort of thing could happen without user consent, and > > > would > > > > like > > > > > to know if I'm wrong. Only thing I can imagine is if ISPs are > > > using HE > > > > as > > > > > a form of CGN. > > > > > > > > There are several networks around the world that rely on 6-in-4 > > > because > > > > their local provider does not offer IPv6. > > > > > > > > Mark. > > > > > > >