On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 8:05 AM, John Curran <jcur...@arin.net> wrote:
> On Sep 19, 2016, at 11:58 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.li...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > (caution! I don't really think arin is evil!) > > Nor do I… (but I will remind folks that organizations evolve based on > participation, > so ongoing diligence and involvement is definitely warranted.) > > > On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 1:16 PM, John Curran <jcur...@arin.net> wrote: > > > >> To be clear, he would still end up bound to an agreement which provides > >> that they > >> indemnify the RIR regarding their RPKI usage (which was the complaint > >> expressed > >> in the NANOG community regarding ARIN’s RPKI terms and conditions) - > >> > >> > > maybe, but his point was that the evil (evile?) arin would not be putting > > their clutches on his ip-address-spaces... Sure he's trading ARIN for > RIPE > > here, but I diidn't think the RPA bit was his concern as much as the LRSA > > and 'now that you agree these are ip blocks are subject to the legacy > > registry services agreement, we (arin - with twisty mustasche) might > decide > > to wrest them away from you!!!<muahahahahaa!>’ > > A distinct possibly, but much improved in the current LRSA (and RSA, which > are the same document at this point.) Unless he’s planning to not pay the > annual maintenance fee and ignore the notices and letters that follow over > the next 120 days, or if going to make a serious misrepresentation in the > process of claiming the rights to the address block, he’s fairly safe... > for > example, ARIN now specifically disclaims revocation for lack of > utilization. > (Furthermore, if ARIN breaches its obligations, the status of the address > block reverts to the same prior to entry the LRSA – this is definitely less > than RIPE provides, which is effectively exit at any time, but far better > than > the original LRSA.) > > If you want to just use your legacy address block (wth the same services > that > where in place at ARIN’s formation), then you don’t need to enter into an > LRSA – > but please do still update your registration in the ARIN registry to have > current > contact data, as this helps deter potential hijackers. If you want to > have those > services that were developed since ARIN’s formation, then I’d suggest > reviewing > the actual current LRSA agreement, as it is significantly improved over > earlier > versions. > > and probably: "If you think there are still improvements, show up at arin meetings and lobby for change" yes? > Thanks! > /John > > John Curran > President and CEO > [Evil?] ARIN > > > >
