On 06/01/2018 05:24 AM, niels=na...@bakker.net wrote: > * h...@efes.iucc.ac.il (Hank Nussbacher) [Fri 01 Jun 2018, 06:56 CEST]: >> The entire whois debacle will only get resolved when some hackers attack >> www.eugdpr.org, ec.europa.eu and some other key .eu sites. When the >> response they get will be "sorry, we can't determine who is attacking >> you since that contravenes GDPR", will the EU light bulb go on that >> something in GDPR needs to be tweaked. > > Please stop inciting lawbreaking, and stop spreading long debunked > talking points. Both are really inappropriate for this list.
OK, then let's talk about something that IS appropriate for this list. How does your shop, Niels, go about making contact with an operator that is hijacking one of your netblocks, or is doing something weird with routing that is causing your customers problems, or has broken BGP? I will say right now that in large shops, the owner is NOT the right contact. In fact, if things are broken enough you may not be able to send email to the owner -- he could be isolated. The registration authorities want the owner contact for legal reasons. We poor sods in the trenches need tech contacts, preferably contacts with clue. In other words, how do you do your job in light of the GDPR restrictions on accessing contact information for other network operators? Please be specific. A lot of NOC policies and procedures will need to be updated. Right now my policies and procedures book says to use WHOIS. What needs to change?
