Science https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/
Give the data yourself. On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 12:50 PM Rod Beck <rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com> wrote: > Unfortunately, the science community disagrees with Rob and you. > > > Have a great day, big guy. > > > Regards, > > > Roderick. > > > ________________________________ > From: Mel Beckman <m...@beckman.org> > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 6:16 PM > To: Rod Beck > Cc: Rob McEwen; nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Rising sea levels are going to mess with the internet > > Well, Rod, you just made a claim with zero support, while Rob provided > accurate citations proving every one of his statements. > > But it’s not wasting our time with the Fiber Optic Networks Are Doomed by > Sea Level Rise society :) > > See what I did there? I brought the discussion back to the original claim, > which I think has now been finally thoroughly debunked. Sea levels no more > threaten the Internet than marshmallows. Less, probably :) > > -mel > > > On Jul 26, 2018, at 9:08 AM, Rod Beck <rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com> > wrote: > > > > Well, Rob, you are wrong on almost every point. But it is not wasting > our time with the Flat Earth society. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Roderick. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Rob McEwen < > r...@invaluement.com> > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 4:52 AM > > To: nanog@nanog.org > > Subject: Re: Rising sea levels are going to mess with the internet > > > > For the past 100+ years, the sea levels have been rising by about 2-4 mm > > per year. If you go to the following two sites: > > > > https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html > [http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/apple-icon-144x144.png]< > https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html> > > Is sea level rising? - NOAA's National Ocean Service< > https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html> > oceanservice.noaa.gov > There is strong evidence that sea level is rising and will continue to > rise this century at increasing rates. > > > > [http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/apple-icon-144x144.png]< > https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html> > > > > Is sea level rising? - NOAA's National Ocean Service< > https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html> > > oceanservice.noaa.gov > > There is strong evidence that sea level is rising and will continue to > rise this century at increasing rates. > > > > > > https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/ > > > > You'll see all kinds of scary language about dire predictions about how > > the sea levels are rising and accelerating. And you'll see SCARY charts > > that look like Mt. Everest. But when you dig into the actual data, > > you'll find that there MIGHT have been (at most!) a CUMULATIVE 1mm/year > > acceleration... but even that took about 4 decades to materialize, it > > could be somewhat within the margin of error, and it might be a part of > > the fake data that often drives this debate. Meanwhile, global warming > > alarmists have ALREADY made MANY dire predictions about oceans levels > > rising - that ALREADY didn't even come close to true. > > > > The bottom line is that there is no trend of recently observed sea level > > rising data that is even close to being on track to hit all these dire > > predictions within the foreseeable future. And even as the West has > > reduced (or lessened the acceleration of) CO2 emissions - this has been > > easily made up for by the CO2 emission increases caused by the > > modernization of China and India in recent decades. > > > > And, again, there were articles like this 10, 15, and even 20 years ago > > that made very similar predictions - that didn't happen. So, it is hard > > to believe that the dire predictions in this article could come true in > > 15 years. > > > > But I suppose that it might be a good idea to take inventory of the > > absolute lowest altitude cables and make sure that they are not > > vulnerable to the type of flooding that might happen more often after a > > few decades from now after the ocean has further risen about 2 inches? > > But the sky is not falling anytime soon. > > > > Rob McEwen > > > > > >> On 7/22/2018 9:01 PM, Sean Donelan wrote: > >> https://www.popsci.com/sea-level-rise-internet-infrastructure > >> > >> Rising sea levels are going to mess with the internet, sooner than you > >> think > >> > >> [...] > >> Despite its magnitude, this network is increasingly vulnerable to sea > >> levels inching their way higher, according to research presented at an > >> academic conference in Montreal this week. The findings estimate that > >> within 15 years, thousands of miles of what should be land-bound > >> cables in the United States will be submerged underwater. > >> > >> “Most of the climate change-related impacts are going to happen very > >> soon,” says Paul Barford, a computer scientist at the University of > >> Wisconsin and lead author of the paper. > >> [...] > >> > > > > -- > > Rob McEwen > > > -- Sincerely, Jason W Kuehl Cell 920-419-8983 jason.w.ku...@gmail.com