My mom was cheap and only had pulse dialing in the 90s, it made using pagers difficult. Had to flip to tone after it dialed.
Ns Sent from my iPad > On Mar 31, 2019, at 8:53 PM, Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > > The telephone example: > What IS the benefit of DTMF other than I can dial faster? None. And I can > use IVRs. Again - no impact to me as a telephone company. > > As far as ipv6. It’s been proven things “load faster” because the ipv6 > servers of the various websites are not as heavily loaded as the ipv4 > variants. > > All things equal - ipv6 doesn’t load faster. There’s literally no advantage > to ipv6 other than “I’m out of ipv4 and need to continue to provide public > routable Ips to my customers. “ > >> On Mar 31, 2019, at 9:42 PM, Mike Leber <mle...@he.net> wrote: >> >> You are assuming the routing and transit relationships in IPv4 are the >> same in IPv6. >> >> IPv4 has many many many suboptimal transit relationships where routing >> is purposely suboptimal on the part of the networks in the path due to >> competitive reasons. One example of suboptimal routing is traffic not >> being exchanged in a closer location where both networks exist and >> instead being routed hundreds or thousands of miles out of the way. >> >> Customers don't get to influence the decisions of monopolies etc. >> >> Customers choose based on inertia, brand experience, and what options >> are even available to them to get IPv6 vs IPv4. >> >> IPv6 has randomized some of these vendor relationships due to some >> upstream networks not even implementing IPv6, meaning the downstream >> networks were forced to make other choices. >> >> >>> On 3/31/19 6:21 PM, Keith Medcalf wrote: >>> It is not possible for web pages to load faster over IPv6 than over IPv4. >>> All other factors being equal, IPv6 has higher overhead than IPv4 for the >>> same payload throughput. This means that it is physically impossible for >>> IPv6 to be move payload bytes "faster" than IPv4 can move the same payload. >>> >>> In other words, IPv6 has a higher "packet tax" than IPv4. Since you have >>> no choice but to pay the "packet tax" the actual payload data flows more >>> slowly. >>> >>> --- >>> The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven says >>> a lot about anticipated traffic volume. >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Ca By >>>> Sent: Sunday, 31 March, 2019 18:53 >>>> To: Matt Hoppes >>>> Cc: Aaron C. de Bruyn; NANOG mailing list >>>> Subject: Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 4:20 PM Matt Hoppes >>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Going to play devils advocate. >>>> >>>> If frontier has a ton of ipv4 addresses, what benefit is there >>>> to them in rolling out ipv6? >>>> >>>> What benefit is there to you? >>>> >>>> >>>> I love xbox and xbox works better on ipv6, >>>> >>>> https://www.nanog.org/sites/default/files/wed.general.palmer.xbox_.47 >>>> .pdf >>>> >>>> Also, webpages load faster , and i love fast web pages >>>> >>>> https://code.fb.com/networking-traffic/ipv6-it-s-time-to-get-on- >>>> board/ >>>> >>>> >>>> https://www.akamai.com/fr/fr/multimedia/documents/technical- >>>> publication/a-case-for-faster-mobile-web-in-cellular-ipv6- >>>> networks.pdf >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 31, 2019, at 7:11 PM, C. A. Fillekes >>>> <cfille...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Still it's pretty darn good having real broadband on the >>>> farm. One thing at a time. >>>> >>>> >>>> But, let's start thinking about ways to get Frontier up to >>>> speed on the IPv6 thing. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 4:24 PM Aaron C. de Bruyn >>>> <aa...@heyaaron.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> You're not alone. >>>> >>>> I talked with my local provider about 4 years ago and >>>> they said "We will probably start looking into IPv6 next year". >>>> I talked with them last month and they said "Yeah, >>>> everyone seems to be offering it. I guess I'll have to start reading >>>> how to implement it". >>>> >>>> I'm sure 2045 will finally be the year of IPv6 >>>> everywhere. >>>> >>>> -A >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 7:36 AM C. A. Fillekes >>>> <cfille...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So by COB yesterday we now officially have FIOS >>>> at our farm. >>>> >>>> >>>> Went from 3Mbps to around 30 measured average. >>>> Yay. >>>> >>>> >>>> It's a business account, Frontier. But...still >>>> no IPv6. >>>> >>>> >>>> The new router's capable of it. What's the hold >>>> up? >>>> >>>> >>>> Customer service's response is "We don't offer >>>> that". >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >
