I remember tapping the switch-hook to emulate pulse-dialing on
touch-tone phones.
Few were impressed.
On 3/31/19 9:01 PM, Luke Guillory wrote:
My mom was cheap and only had pulse dialing in the 90s, it made using pagers
difficult. Had to flip to tone after it dialed.
Ns
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 31, 2019, at 8:53 PM, Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
wrote:
The telephone example:
What IS the benefit of DTMF other than I can dial faster? None. And I can use
IVRs. Again - no impact to me as a telephone company.
As far as ipv6. It’s been proven things “load faster” because the ipv6 servers
of the various websites are not as heavily loaded as the ipv4 variants.
All things equal - ipv6 doesn’t load faster. There’s literally no advantage to
ipv6 other than “I’m out of ipv4 and need to continue to provide public
routable Ips to my customers. “
On Mar 31, 2019, at 9:42 PM, Mike Leber <mle...@he.net> wrote:
You are assuming the routing and transit relationships in IPv4 are the
same in IPv6.
IPv4 has many many many suboptimal transit relationships where routing
is purposely suboptimal on the part of the networks in the path due to
competitive reasons. One example of suboptimal routing is traffic not
being exchanged in a closer location where both networks exist and
instead being routed hundreds or thousands of miles out of the way.
Customers don't get to influence the decisions of monopolies etc.
Customers choose based on inertia, brand experience, and what options
are even available to them to get IPv6 vs IPv4.
IPv6 has randomized some of these vendor relationships due to some
upstream networks not even implementing IPv6, meaning the downstream
networks were forced to make other choices.
On 3/31/19 6:21 PM, Keith Medcalf wrote:
It is not possible for web pages to load faster over IPv6 than over IPv4. All other
factors being equal, IPv6 has higher overhead than IPv4 for the same payload throughput.
This means that it is physically impossible for IPv6 to be move payload bytes
"faster" than IPv4 can move the same payload.
In other words, IPv6 has a higher "packet tax" than IPv4. Since you have no choice but
to pay the "packet tax" the actual payload data flows more slowly.
---
The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven says a
lot about anticipated traffic volume.
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From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Ca By
Sent: Sunday, 31 March, 2019 18:53
To: Matt Hoppes
Cc: Aaron C. de Bruyn; NANOG mailing list
Subject: Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6
On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 4:20 PM Matt Hoppes
<mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
Going to play devils advocate.
If frontier has a ton of ipv4 addresses, what benefit is there
to them in rolling out ipv6?
What benefit is there to you?
I love xbox and xbox works better on ipv6,
https://www.nanog.org/sites/default/files/wed.general.palmer.xbox_.47
.pdf
Also, webpages load faster , and i love fast web pages
https://code.fb.com/networking-traffic/ipv6-it-s-time-to-get-on-
board/
https://www.akamai.com/fr/fr/multimedia/documents/technical-
publication/a-case-for-faster-mobile-web-in-cellular-ipv6-
networks.pdf
On Mar 31, 2019, at 7:11 PM, C. A. Fillekes
<cfille...@gmail.com> wrote:
Still it's pretty darn good having real broadband on the
farm. One thing at a time.
But, let's start thinking about ways to get Frontier up to
speed on the IPv6 thing.
On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 4:24 PM Aaron C. de Bruyn
<aa...@heyaaron.com> wrote:
You're not alone.
I talked with my local provider about 4 years ago and
they said "We will probably start looking into IPv6 next year".
I talked with them last month and they said "Yeah,
everyone seems to be offering it. I guess I'll have to start reading
how to implement it".
I'm sure 2045 will finally be the year of IPv6
everywhere.
-A
On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 7:36 AM C. A. Fillekes
<cfille...@gmail.com> wrote:
So by COB yesterday we now officially have FIOS
at our farm.
Went from 3Mbps to around 30 measured average.
Yay.
It's a business account, Frontier. But...still
no IPv6.
The new router's capable of it. What's the hold
up?
Customer service's response is "We don't offer
that".
