Le 27 oct. 2010 à 14:14, Keith Moore a écrit :

> IMO, a minimum requirement for any v6 NAT approved by IETF is that hosts/apps 
> MUST have a way to determine the external/global addresses associated with a 
> connection without needing an external server in global address space for ICE 
> or similar tricks.
> This mechanism MUST be the same mechanism for all standard NATs.

I agree with this, but then host modifications are needed anyway.

Then a key supposed advantage of NAT66 (stateful or stateless) over solutions 
that depend on host upgrades vanishes.
Do you agree?

Besides, the technical analysis below of the relationship between NAT66, 
PA-prefixes, and multihoming, doesn't depend on hosts knowing or not their 
addresses.
I do hope someone will eventually comment its technical contents.


> People need to stop insisting that hosts and apps don't need to know their 
> addresses.`

Yes, some apps need it, and therefore some hosts do need it.

Regards,
RD


>> - If a private-site network has two CPEs giving access to two ISPs with PA 
>> prefixes, the CPE via which a packet goes to the Internet depends on the 
>> intra-site routing.
>> - If intra-site routing DOESN'T make sure that all packets from a given host 
>> always go to the same CPE, then TCP connections will be broken because:
>> . packets that go via a CPE different from that traversed by the the SYN 
>> packet will be received with a different source address
>> . they will then be discarded at their destination because they have a 
>> different source address than that of the 5-tuple that identifies the 
>> connection.
>> . the available tool to work with several source addresses, SHIM6,  can't 
>> help because, due to NAT66, hosts don't know their global addresses.
>> - If intra-site routing DOES make sure that all packets from a given host 
>> always go to the same CPE, incoming connection that come via the other CPE 
>> will be broken because outgoing packets will never have the right global 
>> source address.
>> 


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