> ...  the most workable approach for now requires applications to pass IP 
> addresses to peers 
> in referrals (perhaps with some additional information) and for those peers 
> to make heuristic 
> guesses about which addresses to try first.  Granted that's not a very good 
> solution, but it's 
> way better than trying to prevent apps from making those decisions.

Keith, it seems that you are describing ICE. Of course, ICE only really works 
for UDP based applications. So we may need to run TCP or a new equivalent 
protocol on top of UDP. Of course, if we do that, we can also get a solution 
that works through not only NAT, but also basic stateful firewalls. 

ICE, STUN, TURN forever. Not exactly what we were shooting for in 1992. Oh well.

-- Christian Huitema



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