On Nov 1, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Roger Marquis wrote:

>> Any pro-NAT arguments that try to cite specific protocols that happen to
>> work with NAT, or expect their opponents to enumerate applications that
>> don't work with NAT, are inherently irrelevant, and not worth responding
>> to.
> 
> Why am I not surprised that Keith is opposed to discussion of technical
> specifics.

I'm opposed to wasting my time discussing irrelevant technical specifics, 
especially with people who insist on perpetuating a state of denial.

>> The purpose of the Internet is not to support only a few specific protocols
>> that you might have happened to have heard of today, or that might happen
>> to work through NAT.
> 
> Keith's definition of "The purpose of the Internet" is a theoretical one and
> bears little resemblance with the net as it exists today. 

No, it''s just that the internet is far more diverse than you're willing to 
admit.

Keith

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