You can have a look here:
https://socialcompare.com/en/comparison/esp8266-vs-esp32-vs-esp32-s2

Le mardi 24 janvier 2023 à 10:13:25 UTC+1, W1SBY a écrit :

> Moses,
> I was going to place an order but have a couple of questions.
>
> What is the difference between an ESP32 and a Xaiu ESP32C3?
>
> Also there is no way to pick “optional items”
>
> I’m looking forward to this clock. 
>
> Allen
>
> Allen Wisbey, W1SBY
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2023, at 5:31 PM, Moses <mo...@neonixie.com> wrote:
>
> I'm taking pre-orders! Waiting on a few production parts to arrive, 
> testing and adding a few final features to the firmware. There is an order 
> link on the main page at http://www.neonixie.com/IV-9-6D-RR/
>
>
> The firmware has several new features. I've added barometric readings from 
> the optional BMP280, mostly data displayed on the devices web server, but 
> I've included a drop down option to use the display as an altimeter! :)
> I'm working on adding a pressure display option, likely alternating 
> between current pressure and HI / LO pressures for the last 24 hours. 
> There's also an option to display wifi RSSI and LUX readings, mainly for 
> debugging. If anyone has any other ideas for an 'alternate display' I'm all 
> ears!
>
> I'm delaying the QT PY board sale until I can do a little bit more testing 
> and secure sufficient stock. The original Espressif devkitc module and Xiao 
> C3 versions are available now.
>
> Thank you everyone for your support and be sure to read the dedication on 
> the bottom of the page!
>
> Regards,
> -Moses
> On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 9:20:27 PM UTC-8 Moses wrote:
>
>> An update. I've gotten a hold of a few Adafruit QT Py ESP32 boards and 
>> have been testing them out lately. The last picture is a working mockup 
>> before I spin up another PCB.
>>
>> http://www.neonixie.com/IV-9-6D-RR/
>>
>> Looks like I can keep both the original ESP32 DEVKITC footprint and add 
>> the QT Py easily, giving me a few options. The Seeed Studio Xiao boards 
>> have the same pinout as the QT Py, so potentially another controller option.
>> Height of components was mentioned previously, and if I omit the socket 
>> for the QT Py or the larger ESP32, I can get the board height down to about 
>> 9mm, which is pretty good I would say. As luck would have it.. I believe 
>> the pinout of the IV-9 is such that you can add the missing pin of the 
>> circular pin arrangement, connect them together and mount the tubes on the 
>> 'bottom' of the board. With this small change one can solder the tubes to 
>> the "bottom" with just a simple software option!
>>
>> The 74125 logic converter IC is below the ESP32, I may just move this 
>> away to the right side of the board. The BH1750 lux sensor and AHT20 
>> temp/humidity in the corner of the board are working well.
>>
>> One thing I did notice is the QT Py boards can't be too far away from the 
>> wifi router.. likely from the tiny chip antenna they use. They have a 
>> variant with external antenna, might try that too. The ESP32-C3 (RISC-V) 
>> variant needed some USB drivers on my dev machine, which was a task, but 
>> eventually worked.
>>
>> I have been providing the tubes with 5v and running PWM at about 75%, 
>> this gives me right around 20ma per segment, and avoids having to provide a 
>> DC-DC converter. The actual voltage to the segments is less then 5v.. since 
>> there are losses in the driver ICs. I do have a diode on the PCB as well, 
>> which you can put in line with a solder jumper. The diode drops the 5v down 
>> to about 4.2v, giving a native 20ma per segment without PWM. I'd like to 
>> ask if anyone has any knowledge on theoretical lifespan impact of either 
>> option. I like the 5v option with PWM, can limit the maximum in software 
>> but provide the option to overdrive them if anyone so chooses. This is my 
>> first production attempt at a numitron clock, so any detailed experience 
>> from group members is greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Regards,
>> -Moses
>> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 5:03:45 PM UTC-8 Moses wrote:
>>
>>> Ian,
>>>
>>> Yes, the picture is overexposed. I've found it's pretty difficult to 
>>> take good pictures of numitrons!
>>>
>>> The diode is just a plain silicon version, I put a jumper pad on the 
>>> bottom to bypass it if desired. When in line it drops about 0.8v, so my 
>>> input of 5v becomes 4.2v and the segments are using about 20ma each. 
>>> Bypassing it and providing 5v to the segments gives 24ma. There is PWM 
>>> dimming, so a maximum current option is easy to add to the firmware (on top 
>>> the the default brightness settings). During normal clock operation it's 
>>> running about 600ma, so I'm burning about 0.5w in the diode. It's not very 
>>> hot, but I will add some more copper on the PCB if the diode remains. I did 
>>> think about adding a switching converter, but that adds more parts to 
>>> solder. Assuming a switching converter would be 90% efficient.. I go from 
>>> burning 0.5w to 0.2w. Is saving 1/3 of a watt worth the additional parts 
>>> cost? I'm not sure. I'm trying to go with a low parts count without 
>>> sacrificing much.
>>>
>>> Yes, it's a bog standard 'clock in a box' type kit, haha. But I think 
>>> I'm ok with that right now. Could move everything to the bottom.. that's 
>>> always an option.
>>> I used to socket everything.. but now my thinking is with modern 
>>> semiconductors, once it works it's likely good for a few decades I would 
>>> hope! It's feels like I'm adding another point of potential failure.
>>>
>>> Cool clocks on your site!
>>> I did look at the Wemos D1 too.. but decided for this iteration I'll go 
>>> with the controller I already know. For something smaller I was also 
>>> looking at the Adafruit QT Py as well as the Seeed Xiao boards.
>>> I couldn't figure out how you power your IV-9s.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> -Moses
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 2:47:58 AM UTC-8 Ian Sparkes wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nice work!
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure if it is just your picture, but they look over-driven to 
>>>> me. It's perhaps just the exposure - I guess D1 is a Zener to provide some 
>>>> stability on the drive to the filaments, maybe you need to drop the 
>>>> voltage 
>>>> on that. The Zener is a pretty wasteful way of stabilising the voltage - 
>>>> you're going to need to provide for about an amp at full blast (42 
>>>> segments 
>>>> at around 20mA = .84A), and to dump the excess over the life of the clock 
>>>> amounts to a lot of energy.
>>>>
>>>> That's also a fairly hard set up you have there to find a nice case 
>>>> for, with the big dev board standing way up. Also for kits, you're going 
>>>> to 
>>>> want to put those drivers in sockets and they will also stand proud and 
>>>> too 
>>>> close behind the tubes to make an attractive casing easy.
>>>>
>>>> Here's my take on it - feel free to nab a few ideas there. (These are 
>>>> not for sale at the moment - stock trouble).
>>>>
>>>> https://www.nixieclock.biz/StoreNumitron-6Digit.html
>>>> https://www.nixieclock.biz/StoreNumitron-4Digit.html
>>>>
>>>> BTW, when I was still delivering these, I would usually deliver them 
>>>> with the USB connector and the NeoPixels already soldered and tested.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 9 Dec 2022 at 05:21, Moses <mo...@neonixie.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Everybody,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm happy to say the first prototype PCB has arrived and has been 
>>>>> assembled! Some pictures here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.neonixie.com/IV-9-6D-RR/
>>>>>
>>>>> Some details..
>>>>> - I purposefully picked all through hole parts as this will be in full 
>>>>> kit form.
>>>>> - I ended up choosing the TI TPIC6C596N driver. It does everything I 
>>>>> need and is pin compatibility with PN '595N and possibly a few others. 
>>>>> I've 
>>>>> been testing software that keeps the unlit segments 'warm' by PWM'ing 
>>>>> them 
>>>>> to just barely invisible..  not so sure if this is going to make a big 
>>>>> lifespan difference. These are being driven by a 74AHCT125 for the logic 
>>>>> level shift (3.3v to 5v).
>>>>> - The controller is a ESP32 original dev board from Espressif, the 
>>>>> same one I use for my previous nixie clock. This gives me a known good 
>>>>> working part number and software carry over from my prior nixie clock. 
>>>>> Most 
>>>>> of the features of that clock will carry over directly to this one, 
>>>>> including the BH1750 lux module and AHT20 temperature/humidity sensor.
>>>>> - Input is 5v via a common DC barrel jack. I did order a few USB-C 
>>>>> input jacks, even found a through-hole one. I decided against using it in 
>>>>> a 
>>>>> kit due to the more delicate soldering required, as well as the unknown 
>>>>> quality of all the USB cables and power supplies I generally run into. 
>>>>> This 
>>>>> runs the IV-9s directly and optionally through a diode to run them at a 
>>>>> slightly lower voltage of ~4.2v if desired.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am ordering more parts and should have a few beta boards out before 
>>>>> the holidays. Hopefully production kits will be ready sometime in January!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to everyone who provided advice and feedback!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> -Moses
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 3:06:41 AM UTC-8 hall...@hotmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If Richard is in-So am I 😊
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>> Peter..insidiousnixies:Utube                                     
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *'Ian' via neonixie-l
>>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, November 17, 2022 5:52 PM
>>>>>> *To: *neoni...@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Any interest in IV-9 numitron clock 
>>>>>> kit?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I’m in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17 Nov 2022, at 04:28, Richard Scales <ric...@scalesweb.co.uk> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have built several numitron kits from nixieclock.biz and am a big 
>>>>>> fan of numitrons, I have only had them running far a couple of years and 
>>>>>> then for only half a day at most. I have heard that their tube life is 
>>>>>> 'long' but have not seen any actual numbers. I have also re-worked the 
>>>>>> design for other numitrons like IV-19 and DTF104B. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <RCS_5954.jpg>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Richard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, 16 November 2022 at 22:26:36 UTC mo...@neonixie.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Everybody, 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I seem to have enough IV-9 tubes to where I can produce a batch of 
>>>>>>> 100 or so 6 digit numitron clocks. Thinking ESP32 powered like my last 
>>>>>>> one 
>>>>>>> (Thank you to all those who gave suggestions, the kit came out great!). 
>>>>>>> I'm 
>>>>>>> thinking maybe try for a full through-hole solder kit with some shift 
>>>>>>> registers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know nixies are more popular.. but anyone interested in a numitron 
>>>>>>> clock kit?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, one question I do have, anyone have long term experience (ie, 
>>>>>>> years?) running this particular tube? How do they fare?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> -Moses
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