Thanks guys, I have the HDS-6. Neil, I'm still a bit unclear about the connections. The cableing for the master section has 2 cables labled Cue 1&2, and Cue A&B. Forgive me, but I'm a total novice at this and I'm trying to learn as I go. I guess I'm asking what is the easiest way to hook up the cue system with the HDS-6, and which jacks are you referring to on the patchbay to connect it to?
Thanks again, Dave ---- Original Message ---- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: NEOTEK: Neotek Elite II Pin Out Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:39:27 -0500 >Dave, > If you have the same Furman I do with one stereo and four mono >sends >just wire >a cable with bantams on one end to plug into the Elite's patch bay >with the other >going to the Furman master unit. That way you can plug in the >headphone system while tracking >but still use the Aux's for effects when mixing. I love how how the >Furman lines up with the Elite (one stereo >and four mono), its like they were made for each other. However, I >hate the cat5 connectors, have to constantly >fiddle with them during sessions to keep the headphones working. > >Neil Cameron >www.privateear.ca > >On 17-Aug-10, at 10:53 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >> Ike, >> Sorry for the misprint. What I meant was I'll try grounding >> everything, and if I need to, I'll start snipping shields sans mic >> lines. My bad. Thanks again for your help. I've just about got >> everything hooked up except the cue system. I'm not sure how to go >> about hooking it up. I have the small Furman unit with a couple of >> individual remote mixers with Cat5 cable. If anyone has any tips it >> would be great. >> >> Thanks again to all, >> Dave >> >> ---- Original Message ---- >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: NEOTEK: Neotek Elite II Pin Out >> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:26:59 -0400 >> >>> Hi Dave, >>> What do you mean by "sans mic lines"? The mic lines are the >ones >>> >>> that you absolutely HAVE to connect the shields on both ends. >>> best, >>> Ike >>> >>> On 8/12/2010 7:48 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>> Thanks to all for your advice. I now understand about the >>> possibility >>>> of a ground loop occuring in certain instances when all wires are >>>> treminated. I think I'll try connecting all grounds (sans mic >>> lines) >>>> upon initial termination and see what happens. I don't use >>> computers >>>> or have much outboard gear, so hopefully I won't run into any >>> issues. >>>> If I do, I'll start snipping the grounds. >>>> >>>> Thanks again, >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> ---- Original Message ---- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: NEOTEK: Neotek Elite II Pin Out >>>> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 21:04:09 +0100 >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> In all of my (many) installations I have grounded both ends as >the >>>>> Rane >>>>> note suggests and rarely had problems, notably computer multi >>> output >>>>> soundcards at -10dBu when wired with long cables. >>>>> The issue used to be with 'hum' pickup but now with everyone >>> packing >>>>> a >>>>> mobile phone and multiple RF transmitters (computers, switchmode >>>>> supplies in things etc) having screens grounded to chassis at >BOTH >>>>> ends >>>>> is necessary to keep out these RF radiations. A possible >diversion >>>>> could >>>>> be to use a capacitor to give HF ground but 'break' mains >>> frequency >>>>> hum >>>>> to help in extreme situations where ground lifting seems to be >the >>>>> only >>>>> solution. >>>>> To begin with ground everwhere and if pushed it is quick to snip >a >>>>> few >>>>> later. >>>>> Matt S >>>>> >>>>> David Moore wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This is a good resource for grounding and interconnecting >>> devices: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.rane.com/note110.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> David Moore >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Donald Put<[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> When only one side of a shield is connected it's to prevent >>>>>> >>>>> ground >>>>> >>>>>> loops and the resulting hum they cause. Since patch bays >>> are >>>>>> >>>>> used to >>>>> >>>>>> connect various pieces of equipment, which can be at >>> different >>>>>> >>>>> ground >>>>> >>>>>> potentials if everything isn't electrically copacetic with >>> the >>>>>> >>>>> studio >>>>> >>>>>> mains wiring and/or other issues, there can be some induced >>> hum >>>>>> >>>>> if all >>>>> >>>>>> shields are connected at both ends. Even if the shield is >>> only >>>>>> connected at one end, you will get the benefit from it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Don >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:28 AM,<[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> Can anyone answer our "open ended shield" question? I've >>> got >>>>>> >>>>> a huge >>>>> >>>>>>> cable configuration job right in front of me and if I >>> don't >>>>>> >>>>> have to >>>>> >>>>>>> solder a shield on one end that would be wonderful. I'm >>>>>> >>>>> guessing the >>>>> >>>>>>> patchbay side is probably balanced. What's the deal with >>> the >>>>>> >>>>> shield? >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---- Original Message ---- >>>>>>> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: NEOTEK: Neotek Elite II Pin Out >>>>>>> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:29:58 -0700 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> um yeah...just finished my 96 point patchbay, going to the >>>>>> >>>>> console >>>>> >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> an external patchbay for outboard gear so I am really >>>>>> >>>>> interested in >>>>> >>>>>>>> the concept of open ended shield on one side. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I understand the concept of star grounding and plan on >>>>>> >>>>> lifting my >>>>> >>>>>>>> individual components and sending the shield/patch bay >>>>>> >>>>> chassis >>>>> >>>>>> to one >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ground but the open ended patch bay adds a new twist to >>> this >>>>>> concept. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanx, >>>>>>>> Jack >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2010, at 2:21 PM, [email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ike, >>>>>>>>> Can you explain the thought of grounding on one end >>> only? >>>>>> >>>>> I just >>>>> >>>>>>>>> terminated 96 1/4" ins/outs for my multitrack and I >>>>>> >>>>> soldered fully >>>>> >>>>>>>>> balanced. Are you saying that I should disconnect the >>>>>> >>>>> shield >>>>> >>>>>> on one >>>>>>>>> end? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Dave Spencer >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---- Original Message ---- >>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: NEOTEK: Neotek Elite II Pin Out >>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:43:00 -0400 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The wonderful thing about EDAC connectors is that they >>> are >>>>>> >>>>> really >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> easy >>>>>>>>>> to reconfigure if they aren't right. >>>>>>>>>> I strongly reccommend that you have your cables >>> wired >>>>>> with the >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> sheild terminated at one end only (except the Mic >>> sources, >>>>>> >>>>> of >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> course). >>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ike Zimbel >>>>>>>>>> Zimbel Audio Ltd >>>>>>>>>> 416-720-0887 >>>>>>>>>> www.zimbelaudio.com<http://www.zimbelaudio.com> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2010-08-11, at 11:16 AM, Jon >>> King<[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ike, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm doing my best to find that out from the gentlemen >>> I'm >>>>>> >>>>> buying >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> desk from (the split connector idea).. It's a 40 >>> channel >>>>>> >>>>> with >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> audiomate. Thanks again for the input! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jon >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Ike wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jon >>>>>>>>>>>> I was just looking at an old post from a list >>> member >>>>>> who had >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> gotten his Elite snakes made by Redco. So they >>> should >>>>>> >>>>> have >>>>> >>>>>> it on >>>>>>>>>>>> file. I have never seen any variation in the order >>> of >>>>>> >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>>>>> pin-out >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> which is (from memory, I'm on vacation...): >>>>>>>>>>>> a-1+ >>>>>>>>>>>> k-1- >>>>>>>>>>>> v-1 sheild >>>>>>>>>>>> It then continues across the connector in rows of >>> eight >>>>>>>> channels. >>>>>>>>>>>> The "custom" stuff is usually whether they >>> put >>>>>> >>>>> all 40 >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> tape- >>>>>>>>>>>> outs on one connector (on a 40 ch desk) or split it >>> up >>>>>> >>>>> over two >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> connectors. >>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>>>> Ike Zimbel >>>>>>>>>>>> Zimbel Audio Ltd >>>>>>>>>>>> 416-720-0887 >>>>>>>>>>>> www.zimbelaudio.com<http://www.zimbelaudio.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2010-08-11, at 9:36 AM, Jon >>> King<[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Guys, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure you all have had this question 5000 times. >>> I'm >>>>>> looking >>>>>>>>>>>>> for an Elco Pin Out for a 1999-2000 Neotek Elite 2. >>>>>> >>>>> I'm in >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> process of purchase and I'm trying to get Redco >>> started >>>>>> >>>>> on the >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> snakes. I'm just having no luck finding a pin out >>> for >>>>>> >>>>> Mic >>>>> >>>>>> Lines >>>>>>>> / >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Multi Track Sends / Multi Track Returns. I >>> understand >>>>>> >>>>> these >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> consoles were quasi custom but surely there has to >>> be >>>>>> >>>>> some >>>>> >>>>>> sort >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> standard of this. 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