If you're wiring now, I would suggest wiring enough lines going to your live room to handle the Furman, Hearback or whatever headphone system you choose. If these lines are wired into your patchbay as well, you can easily control what goes where during your session. I chose to use the "tie lines" because they were already there in the patchbay / punchblock.
"Tie lines" are generic lines on the console / patchbay. I wired these into my live room, then into my headphone system. I can then patch in an Aux send or a Pro Tools output to go to the headphone mixer. On my console, Aux 1-2 on the console are also the default headphone "Cue" 1-2. "Headphone Cue" is just another way to say for "foldback". My manual uses these somewhat interchangeably. b On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Colby Wallace wrote: > Man o man, > This is def. going to chase some of you away, but I am not a pro engineer. > Anyway some of this terminology could be explained with a little less lingo > and more laymans terms. Tie lines? Cue? Also, I have not touched the patch > bay on the front of the board. I am only using the punch down panels in the > back. Should I be using the foldbacks as the sends, or is that not what you > are all saying? Below, you write that aux 1-2 default to foldback and 3-6 are > mono inputs. First, I don't think I have 1-6 aux sends, but mianly, that is > fine if I did, but how would I individually control each of those aux sends? > Thanks all, > Colby > > > > Ditto that Furman setup here, but I use the Aux sends (early 80s IIIc) that > get patched into tie lines going to room. Aux 1-2 default to foldback and > aux 3-6 are the 4 mono inputs. This is for analog sessions. > > For Pro Tools, just straight outputs to tie lines into Furman. > > For years I just had the default stereo headphone cue (or 2 mono) and it just > didn't cut it after awhile. > > Musicians love the control of course. The Furman system was one of the best > purchases I've made in awhile! > > b > > -- > Be Hussey > www.comp-ny.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Be Hussey <[email protected]> > To: neotek <[email protected]> > Sent: Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:07 am > Subject: Re: NEOTEK: Series 2 headphone monitor PLEASE HELP > > Ditto that Furman setup here, but I use the Aux sends (early 80s IIIc) that > get patched into tie lines going to room. Aux 1-2 default to foldback and > aux 3-6 are the 4 mono inputs. This is for analog sessions. > > For Pro Tools, just straight outputs to tie lines into Furman. > > For years I just had the default stereo headphone cue (or 2 mono) and it just > didn't cut it after awhile. > > Musicians love the control of course. The Furman system was one of the best > purchases I've made in awhile! > > b > > -- > Be Hussey > www.comp-ny.com > > > On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:17 PM, Adam Manoucheri <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Colby- >> >> I have an early 80's Series 2...I finally got a system wired up, it may not >> be the best solution, but so far it works for my purposes. I bought a >> Furman HDS-6 station and a few HR-6 remote controls. It has 4 mono inputs, >> as well as one stereo pair. The remotes have two headphone jacks, and 5 >> knobs---volume controls for the 4 mono inputs, and one for the stereo input. >> They also have a button to include/exclude the mono inputs from the >> headphone outs. I ended up wiring all 6 inputs into my patchbay, which >> allows me to patch in what source goes where. For example, I can either >> have the stereo input mirror the main stereo out of the console, or what I >> sometimes do is patch the Cue into the L-R inputs of the HDS-6. Then, I can >> control what goes where via the Q1 and Q2 (or A and B as you described) >> knobs at each channel, which sends signal to the L and R inputs >> respectively, whose level is controlled on the remotes by a single stereo >> level control. I usually patch selected instruments into the 4 mono inputs >> of the HDS by patching in the channel I want (guitar, bass, etc) at either >> the insert send or (if it's being used) by routing to a subgroup (if one is >> open), which also opens up options to blend more than one channel. That's >> basically my setup, the first remote is attached to the main unit via a pair >> of Cat5 cables, and additional remotes are daisy-chained off of it. >> >> I don't know if that helps you any or not, but it's the compromise I ended >> up making to get some flexibility. I'm sure others have better ideas, but >> this was the best I could come up with... ;-) >> >> Good luck! >> >> Adam Manoucheri >> Crossroads-Atoll Productions >> >> On Jul 22, 2011, at 10:08 PM, Colby Wallace wrote: >> >>> Someone please help! I can't figure out the puzzle. What are some of your >>> configurations for the musicians to hear the mix. I want each player to be >>> able to say, "hey, I want less bass, and more guitar," etc. I just can't >>> seem to understand how they would be able to adjust those levels in their >>> headphones without it affecting the other headphones. The A and B knobs on >>> each individual channel go to the main "foldback." So, if foldback out goes >>> to a headphone amp, then how would I individually be able to get each >>> headphone their own levels. If I turn down main foldback level A for one >>> person, or B for one person, it affects everyone. I just don't get it. If >>> there was 4 individual outs for headphones with their own a,b,c,d then I >>> would get it, but like this, I dont. Any help would be appreciated. I can't >>> really move forward until I have the headphone setup ideal. I have been >>> working with a very bad headphone setup and cannot take it anymore. Thanks, >>> Colby >>> >>> ps- I bought a headphone amp with 4 headphone jacks, and one line in. Also, >>> the board is a neotek series 2. Mid-80's. >>> >>
