Hi Giles, If the pledge was around then, perhaps things may of been different. ;-)
> I plead guilty as charged I have problems with the guilt thing. I'm sure you meant this in a tongue cheek way, but I have noticed a general nuance on the list harbouring various levels of guilt when dealing with contexts around the subject of climate change (as in modern climate) and the project 'We won't fly for art'. One of the many important factors to consider is how to claim agency, stand with 'authentic' definitions which allow us the room to take personal control as well as be aware critically, so to acknowledge our own local perspectives and global sights on the matter. Then think about how we can make a difference, if interested. The other thing is, this really is not about blaming people, we are all in this together. Each of us possess the capacity within ourselves in evaluating beyond the immediate self, understanding those external situations and consequences which cannot be dealt with by one single entity alone. If we need to blame anyone, it really should not be the messengers who are making an effort to bring about effective changes for a better world. It should be our governments for failing to incorporate earlier on, realistic goals, programmes and activities in our institutional infrastructures, for dealing with what we are faced with now. A major part of the blocks and complexities, which have delayed many of us in grappling with issues concerning climate change and learning about global warming in a coherent fashion; can be placed at the door of our governments allowing neo-liberal companies more concerned about their profits rather our planet's survival to hire numerous, dodgy (so called) scientists to deny climate change in the media world-wide. Many of these, now discredited individuals have been proven wrong, but during the Bush reign it was most confusing, many would use this as a way out of facing ecologically based, world-changing difficulties. "I see the consequences of global warming being relative late-comers to the cascade of crises I think will befall our planet in this century. I expect that our preoccupation with economic depression, pandemic disease, the end of oil, the exhaustion of other resources due to overpopulation and waste, and nuclear, biological and chemical violence will distract us from paying significant attention to 'natural disasters' precipitated by CO2 until it is far too late. Such disasters may, however, be the icing on the cake that seals the fate of our civilization." Tim Flannery. http://blogs.salon.com/0002007/2006/04/05.html Statements such as this one above may seem scary, but are we prepared to take the gamble and not explore deeper the issues facing us as rather than hedge bets on fait accompli? I also wish to reiterate that the 'We won't fly for art' project is an experiment to see how many are interested in exploring with us - as in Ruth and myself, not furtherfield - from the arts community; the activity and critical approach of facing a very difficult challenge for us all and how we can deal with this via the context of how the art world behaves. Are we in the art world willing to let things be the same and not evaluate other possibilities? The dialogue on this list has been authentic and I respect this, for it has allowed us to get to the nitty gritty of things :-) marc > Dear All, > > I plead guilty as charged, and here is the evidence, on furtherfield no less, a review of this years Transmediale, to which of course I flew. > > I usually try and avoid such self publicity, although perhaps on this occasion it is better to come clean. > > http://www.furtherfield.org/displayreview.php?review_id=334 > > Regards Giles Askham > > > www.askham.org > www.game-play.org.uk > > > > > --- On Thu, 16/4/09, richard willis <listse...@richtextformat.co.uk> wrote: > > From: richard willis <listse...@richtextformat.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge > To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" <netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org> > Date: Thursday, 16 April, 2009, 6:06 PM > > "i didn't understand the pledge as being about flying to experience/view > art, but flying for our art careers" > > that was just me not reading it carefully enough! as you were > > > > 2009/4/16 helen varley jamieson <he...@creative-catalyst.com> > > er - what about net art? cyberformance? networked performance? broadcast > music? webcasting? art on telly? (i think that does happen, > occasionally) ... there is a wealth of art that can be experienced > without leaving the comfort of your own home. > > i didn't understand the pledge as being about flying to experience/view > art, but flying for our art careers which, as many people have said, > does become necessary sometimes ... > > h : ) > > This doesn't only happen with art, but the problem with art is you > > have to be physically in front of it to experience it. You can't just > > send a painting or an installation by email. 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