I am not grumpy :( grumble !! Simon Biggs
Research Professor edinburgh college of art s.bi...@eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk Creative Interdisciplinary Research into CoLlaborative Environments CIRCLE research group www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ si...@littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk From: Renee Turner <geu...@xs4all.nl> Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity <netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:14:24 +0100 To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity <netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] DIWO: a host of whys Hi Marc, Dougald and all, Lists can have an odd dynamic. It's often hard to keep up with the pace of posts (especially when the DIWO rhythm kicks in) and not having face to face contact can evoke perhaps more aggressive responses - most of all because unless you're a super writer/reader it's tough at times to grasp the tone. Not to mention, the "who said what loop" is amplified as more mails are added to the pile. As cheesy as it seems, I've found people on this list to be incredibly generous with one another. In fact, this is one of the few lists I remain a fan of. (And I am an oldie on nettime, faces, empyre and even the IDC list) What makes netbehaviour cool? An email like this from Marc where he tries to rethink how something is moderated, Karen's post about reintroducing ourselves to list members, Simon's grumpy response about Utopia (please read this with affection as that mail made me crack a smile-the x punk in me sympathized ;-) and Olga's carefully considered post trying to catch up on various threads mentioned. (and let's not forget about the ongoing/moving Sondheim stream and the re-worked heads that have been rolling around) For some odd reason, counter to other list cultures, people seem to care. They don't just academically challenge, but they share a genuine concern over "the state of affairs". That also means ideas are sometimes delivered half-baked and raw. I'm hoping the glitches, bumps and crashes are part and parcel of the project and are as crucial to the process of discussion as the careful reconsiderations and the humble apologies :-) Okay, who am I? My name is Renee Turner. I'm a member of De Geuzen: a foundation for multi-visual research. You can find our collaborative work here: http://www.geuzen.org/ I also write both digital and analog narratives. That work can be found here: http://www.fudgethefacts.com/ Next to this, although I was born in Texas, I've live in the Netherlands since the early nineties. Currently I work too many teaching jobs to keep my family in a house.... I'm the lover of a wonderful Italian man. We have a precocious six year old boy who keeps us on our toes. I'm a mixer of disciplines. Lastly I have taught art since the mid nineties at various universities and art schools. oh and I live with a cat that's trying to dominate me... Okay, guess that's it....I look forward to meeting others on the list and ploughing forward with DIWO in spite of (or embracing) the ruptures..... and I hope I have time to contribute as things move along :-) xx Renee On Oct 30, 2009, at 11:07 PM, marc garrett wrote: > Hi Dougald, > >> "Welcoming" was the word Marc used to describe this list to me, I >> think. > > I think I mentioned that there was a variety good quality people on > this > list and that they would be open and would welcome you, something > along > these lines anyway. > > At this point, I am at a 'real' loss of what else one should say or > even do. > > I take the blame for putting you in such a harsh place, I'm sorry, I > expected something different - that'll teach me. > > I'm going to take a rest and rethink a few things - I feel quite > disturbed by it all, as well as many other things similar. > > I may feel different tomorrow... > > marc > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC009201
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