it's an interesting dynamic simon - traversing the emotional effects [+ affects;)] involved when engaging in and/or providing content 4 public forums. this [+ ur other post regarding community] highlight important variables involved when participating in such avenues + the "ownership" of such reactions?
chunks, @netwurker On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Simon Biggs <s.bi...@eca.ac.uk> wrote: > I agree Mez. I remained on some of the lists because the spam.art on them > didn't bother me - it even entertained. Other lists I left as I found the > work trying. But I do remember some people getting quite upset. It was the > same with the flame-wars (before we developed more sophisticated online > social capabilities). I have to take my share of the blame for stressing > some people out unnecessarily. > > Best > > Simon > > > Simon Biggs > s.bi...@eca.ac.uk si...@littlepig.org.uk > Skype: simonbiggsuk > http://www.littlepig.org.uk/ > > Research Professor edinburgh college of art > http://www.eca.ac.uk/ > Creative Interdisciplinary Research into CoLlaborative Environments > http://www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ > Electronic Literature as a Model of Creativity and Innovation in Practice > http://www.elmcip.net/ > Centre for Film, Performance and Media Arts > http://www.ed.ac.uk/schools-departments/film-performance-media-arts > > > > From: mez breeze <netwur...@gmail.com> > > Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity > > <netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org> > > Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 09:08:37 +1000 > > To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity > > <netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org> > > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Invitation to join me > > > > ...having been 1 of the celebrated "spam artists" back in the days of > > Integer>NN, it was a [relatively easy] option then [as it is now] 2 set > up > > filters/blocks in regards 2 material list users find > > objectionable/overloading. i do agree, simon, that it might b deemed > > arrogant to deluge ppl with mammoth data hits: i think to associate this > > with the 7-11 list outpourings we did back in the late 90's is > misleading. > > the art lists we "spam"/net.artists utilized knew full-well about our art > > practices + most encouraged it. context, content + the mechanisms of > > exclusion should b examined here as well as allusions 2 data-deluges;) > > > > chunks, > > @netwurker > > > > -- > > Reality Engineer> > > Synthetic Environment Strategist> > > Game[r + ] Theorist. > > ::http://unhub.com/netwurker :: > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Simon Biggs <s.bi...@eca.ac.uk> wrote: > > > >> Spammer art was a pain when we all had dial up and slow connections. It > >> cost > >> money as we paid for the minute (or MB). These days, for most of us, > spam, > >> art or not, is more an annoyance than an injury. However, there are many > >> parts of the world who are still on capped, slow and pay per unit > >> connections. In that context it is potentially arrogant, even injurious, > to > >> deluge people with data who weren't expecting it. > >> > >> Best > >> > >> Simon > >> > >> > >> Simon Biggs > >> s.bi...@eca.ac.uk si...@littlepig.org.uk > >> Skype: simonbiggsuk > >> http://www.littlepig.org.uk/ > >> > >> Research Professor edinburgh college of art > >> http://www.eca.ac.uk/ > >> Creative Interdisciplinary Research into CoLlaborative Environments > >> http://www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ > >> Electronic Literature as a Model of Creativity and Innovation in > Practice > >> http://www.elmcip.net/ > >> Centre for Film, Performance and Media Arts > >> http://www.ed.ac.uk/schools-departments/film-performance-media-arts > >> > >> > >>> From: Helen Sloan <he...@scansite.org> > >>> Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity > >>> <netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org> > >>> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:19:40 +0100 > >>> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity > >>> <netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org> > >>> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Invitation to join me > >>> > >>> Dear Karens, > >>> > >>> I remember Integer, NN etc well and spent hours deleting their prolific > >>> contributions to listings some of which I looked at and others went > >>> unread. It¹s true that there was a mass exodus from Syndicate during > that > >>> time which was a pity as it did good things and it never really > >> recovered. > >>> Finally, I understood what was going on but felt a little sad as well. > >> I¹m > >>> not up for a culture that¹s worth preserving eating itself. > >>> > >>> I¹m all for this activity in a way but why ( as happened in Syndicate¹s > >>> case) do it to ourselves? There must be much more of a statement to be > >> made > >>> to do it in other contexts. In this respect, I really liked what Heath > >>> Bunting and Rachel Baker et al did with supermarkets at about the same > >> time > >>> as these others. > >>> > >>> We¹re entering hard times and in my opinion we should be careful about > >> the > >>> way we do these kinds of interventions now. > >>> > >>> But hey, you can tell me that I don¹t understand and I can take it. > Just > >> a > >>> thought. I look forward to hearing more from Karens but hope you don¹t > >>> implode. > >>> > >>> Best > >>> Helen > >>> Helen Sloan > >>> SCAN > >>> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > NetBehaviour mailing list > > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > > > Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, number > SC009201 > > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > -- Reality Engineer> Synthetic Environment Strategist> Game[r + ] Theorist. ::http://unhub.com/netwurker ::
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