Hi Helen, I specifically wanted to do netbehaviour, as I¹ve been hanging out here for a while and I¹m interested in what it means to be here. It seems to be my kind of hood in many ways, but as Annie, said, I¹m not really a neighbor, I¹m not really in. (Which may be one very understandable reason why no-one but you has responded). So, at the moment the call is extended to different [actual and potential] neighbours as well. When I come to the point of actually visualising ³the² neighbourhood, I¹ll need to make decisions. Will it be specifically this one, Or, one made up of those who chose to respond? Then, what would that mean? [Editing the neighbourhood! Letting it fail.]
but, it¹s interesting. All best m From: helen varley jamieson <he...@creative-catalyst.com> Reply-To: he...@creative-catalyst.com, NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity <netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org> Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 17:12:38 +0200 To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity <netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Visualising the netbehaviour neighbours - and the neighbourhood hi marianne, i'm curious about what neighbourhood you are aiming to visualise; in the email you sent to this list, you specified the netbehaviour neighbourhood, but on the web site where you're posting the portraits, you don't mention netbehaviour; it's an open invitation to anyone who wants to be part of the neighbourhood. in that sense, the neighbourhood you're visualising will be a new & different one to the netbehaviour neighbourhood ... the neighbourhood of wherever your invitation has reached? (altho the netbehviour neighbourhood is indeed open to anyone who wants to be a part of it). neighbourhood is a really interesting concept to explore, since it's changing so much at the moment. we don't choose our neighbours & even if we don't interact with them a lot they can have a huge impact on our lives (& us on them ... ). h : ) On 30/04/11 5:06 PM, list|marianne wrote: > Re: [NetBehaviour] Visualising the netbehaviour neighbours - and the > neighbourhood Hi Annie, > I appreciate your honesty very much, and think you¹ve hit the nail ... The > wish to see the neighbours¹ came from realising how I am not genuinely part > of many of the online networks I am part of. Those where I feel I¹m truly in, > are the ones where I know people, usually where I have met them in the real > world. The ones where I can put faces to names. > > I have said a few words on this list before, but, yes, I¹m a stranger I am > not really part of the neighbourhood at all! > I guess, in many ways and continuously (here, elsewhere, in the real world), > I¹m considering in what way I ought to, could or should be part of the > neighbourhood or, the network of neighbours. And if I would like to, how do > I become part of the neighbourhood? Do I post a lot, do I have to meet you in > the real world, do I have to be introduced, do I need to prove myself to you > (if, then how)? Can I just show up and ask for sugar? Can the cake be a way > of saying hello? > > I¹m on the outside looking in. Curious, too, to hear other¹s reaction to > this it brings up a lot of questions. > > Best > m > > > > > > From: Annie Abrahams <bram....@gmail.com> <mailto:bram....@gmail.com> > Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 14:10:10 +0200 > To: l...@criticalm.org > Cc: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Visualising the netbehaviour neighbours - and > the neighbourhood > > love thy neighbour :) > Hi Marianne, yes that talk's to me :) > > I am not sure if this can be done by asking me to make a vidéo for you - can > one compare your request to asking thy neighbour for some sugar or flower > when you run out of these just before you want to prepare a cake? > > I think I have diffculties to generously say "yes" to your proposition, > request because you never manifested yourself on this list before - in a > certain way you are still a stranger for me, not yet part of the > neighbourhood - I fond myself a bit rude by saying this... > I wonder how others react to your request and what my reaction tells about > what netbehaviour is to me? > > Yours > Annie > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 6:45 PM, list|marianne <l...@criticalm.org> > <mailto:l...@criticalm.org> wrote: > >> Hi Annie, >> Fair enough. >> I¹m an artist (etc) - the etc is something I considered adding to my >> ³title² the other day as I was trying to explain what it is I do across >> media, practices, teaching, participatory projects, museums workshops all >> somehow part of me being an artist, or done in a particular way because I >> am an artist, or to make money. Sometimes I get confused, I¹m often spread >> too thinly. >> >> I used to work with net-art, but now mostly drawing, animation, video. >> However, networks, netart/new media, technology (used for good and bad) >> continues to interests me, so, I¹m here mostly lurking, on the >> netbehaviour list (as well as empyre) trying to keep up, stay informed, as >> much as I can. >> >> At the moment I¹m publishing a book on Repetition while also doing an >> online residency with rules and regs >> http://www.rulesandregs.org/digital11.html (spread thinly indeed, but not >> complaining). The latter has imposed rules on me, which is interesting and >> difficult, forcing me to reconsider my practice (I guess this is why >> residencies are good, and why mixing with those that don¹t do exactly as >> you, is good as well!). So to follow the rules, ³love thy neighbour² is one, >> I am trying to find out who my neighbours are. The way I know how to do >> this, is to look and listen. Hence the request for video portraits it >> may be a big ask? What do you think? >> >> (For someone who feels most comfortable being anonymous, I sure said a >> lot! ) >> >> All best >> marianne >> >> >> >> >> From: Annie Abrahams <bram.org <http://bram.org> @gmail.com >> <http://gmail.com> > >> Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity >> <netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org> <mailto:netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org> >> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 18:01:36 +0200 >> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity >> <netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org> <mailto:netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org> >> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Visualising the netbehaviour neighbours - and >> the neighbourhood >> >> >> Hello Marianne, please tell me a bit more about who you are first. >> Yours >> Annie >> >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 5:03 PM, list|marianne <l...@criticalm.org> >> <mailto:l...@criticalm.org> wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> I'm trying to visualise different online networks. Considering online >>> networks as neigbourhoods where people congregate around >>> ideology/interests/beliefs rather than through physical proximity, >>> netbehaviour easily becomes a neighbourhood. >>> I'm in this neighbourhood I like it. I have met a few of you in real >>> life, but mostly know you just by name (and sometimes surprised by how >>> knowing by name make me believe I know in person). The truth is, I don't >>> know most of my online neighbours, I can¹t put a face to the name. >>> >>> So, in an attempt to visualise the neighbourhood - I'm collecting video >>> portraits from those I know, and those I connect to but don't yet know. I >>> will share the accumulated neighbourhood portrait online. >>> >>> I¹m extending the invitation to all. So, if you want to be part of it - >>> will you send me a video portrait of yourself? 15-20 seconds. Using this >>> excellent picture as a guide >>> >>> (main point: plain background, make sure lighting is good, keep camera >>> still, look into camera). >>> YOU DON²T NEED TO LOOK SERIOUS - YOU CAN SMILE, and you can be a little >>> creative, sit down, head in hand, etc. >>> If you want to be in, but not in, turn your back to the camera, make a >>> video portrait of your chair, your desk, your window... >>> >>> For online purposes final size will probably be 640x so phone camera >>> should be fine. I can convert most formats. >>> >>> Email to me at this address or, if file is more than 10mb, use yousendit >>> https://www.yousendit.com/ or similar. >>> >>> I¹ll love to have you in the neighbourhood! >>> (billions of alternatives for visualising the neighbourhood does exist so >>> if you have something to say, tell me) >>> >>> Best >>> Marianne >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> 30-04 21h30 9.30 PM Paris time Theme Song Revisited (After Acconci) >> webperformance 5 min Plus / more info >> http://aabrahams.wordpress.com/2011/04/25/after-acconci/ >> >> 07 05 2011 Une caresse intercontinentale / An intercontinental caress >> Fabrice Métais (New York) Annie Abrahams (Paris) >> http://aabrahams.wordpress.com/2011/04/19/une-caresse-intercontinentale/ >> <http://vimeo.com/22335939> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> > > > > -- > 30-04 21h30 9.30 PM Paris time Theme Song Revisited (After Acconci) > webperformance 5 min Plus / more info > http://aabrahams.wordpress.com/2011/04/25/after-acconci/ > > 07 05 2011 Une caresse intercontinentale / An intercontinental caress > Fabrice Métais (New York) Annie Abrahams (Paris) > http://aabrahams.wordpress.com/2011/04/19/une-caresse-intercontinentale/ > <http://vimeo.com/22335939> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > -- ____________________________________________________________ helen varley jamieson: creative catalyst he...@creative-catalyst.com http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.avatarbodycollision.org http://www.upstage.org.nz ____________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
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