i'm not sure if she's on this list - i'll email her & ask her to respond. :)

On 5/02/12 1:23 AM, dave miller wrote:
> i'd love to know more
>
> d
>
> On 4 February 2012 15:19, helen varley jamieson
> <he...@creative-catalyst.com>  wrote:
>> it is hard to understand what he could have found offensive - i asked
>> tamiko&  she said that he didn't say anything substantive; it sounds
>> like he was saying that he finds augmented reality art in general
>> offensive, rather than tamiko's work - altho demanding that it be taken
>> off-screen is a pretty strong response. but it is hard to understand how
>> a director of a media art festival could label one particular artform
>> offensive.
>>
>> we could ask tamiko to tell us more ...
>>
>> h : )
>>
>> On 4/02/12 10:38 PM, dave miller wrote:
>>> thanks for this Ruth - I'm working with augmented reality at the
>>> minute. As you say it is very difficult technically to get it working,
>>> and also difficult (for me at the moment) to find ways use it in my
>>> art, to extend what I've been doing. My brain is under pressure! But
>>> also, as you say, it's fascinating. I'll have a good look at Tamiko
>>> Thiel's work - I'm very interested in how artists are using this
>>> medium, and to use it for intervention is especially interesting.
>>>
>>> What did Gansig mean? Why offensive? I'd like to know more about this!
>>>
>>> dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4 February 2012 12:05, ruth catlow<ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org>    
>>> wrote:
>>>> Thought this was an interesting development.  Tamiko Thiel is one of the
>>>> view artists I have encountered who is creating thoughtful and critical
>>>> artworks working with augmented reality. I think this is a particularly
>>>> hard (and fascinating) form to work with. What could Gansig have meant?
>>>>
>>>> bests
>>>> Ruth
>>>>
>>>> Please forward to interested parties:
>>>>
>>>> Today at the Transmediale in Berlin, Germany's most important media art
>>>> festival, Transmediale director Kristoffer Gansing censored augmented
>>>> reality artist Tamiko Thiel in a discussion billed as an "open
>>>> conversation."
>>>>
>>>> During the panel discussion "25 years of transmediale / reSource
>>>> Activism VIDEOMAKERS UNITE!," Thiel was invited by a panelist to talk
>>>> about "Reign of Gold," her augmented reality artwork for the AR Occupy
>>>> Wall Street project.
>>>> http://www.mission-base.com/tamiko/AR/reign-of-gold.html
>>>>
>>>> Gansing - who was not moderating but sat in the audience - literally
>>>> shut her up, and demanded that her website be taken off the screen,
>>>> saying he finds augmented reality art "offensive!"
>>>>
>>>> Ironically Gansing themed his festival "in/compatible" and proclaimed
>>>> that it would look at artistic movements that were not compatible with
>>>> the existing order and systems.
>>>>
>>>> Why does Transmediale celebrate yesterday's interventionist art, but
>>>> fear today's interventionist art?
>>>>
>>>> Videomakers Unite!
>>>> http://www.transmediale.de/node/20679
>>>> An open conversation about video art and net culture, media collectives
>>>> and counter-publics ... Videomakers Unite! takes a critical look back at
>>>> the 1980s and 90s discourse around video and the net, and relates this
>>>> to the production of present-day counter-cultures within the fields of
>>>> political and artistic, individual and collective practices.
>>>>
>>>> - Tamiko Thiel
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>    Tamiko Thiel
>>>>    Visiting Professor, UdK Berlin, IZM
>>>>    (Berlin University of the Arts, Inst. of Time-Based Media)
>>>>    Technologies of Non-linear Dramaturgies
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Venice Biennial 2011 - Manifest.AR guerrilla AR Infiltration
>>>>    http://manifestarblog.wordpress.com/thiel_venice-2011/
>>>>
>>>>    Istanbul Biennial 2011 - official collateral exhibit
>>>>    http://mission-base.com/tamiko/AR/ii/images.html
>>>>
>>>>    Email:   tam...@alum.mit.edu
>>>>    Website: http://www.mission-base.com/tamiko/
>>>>
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>>>>
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