i'm not sure if she's on this list - i'll email her & ask her to respond. :)
On 5/02/12 1:23 AM, dave miller wrote: > i'd love to know more > > d > > On 4 February 2012 15:19, helen varley jamieson > <he...@creative-catalyst.com> wrote: >> it is hard to understand what he could have found offensive - i asked >> tamiko& she said that he didn't say anything substantive; it sounds >> like he was saying that he finds augmented reality art in general >> offensive, rather than tamiko's work - altho demanding that it be taken >> off-screen is a pretty strong response. but it is hard to understand how >> a director of a media art festival could label one particular artform >> offensive. >> >> we could ask tamiko to tell us more ... >> >> h : ) >> >> On 4/02/12 10:38 PM, dave miller wrote: >>> thanks for this Ruth - I'm working with augmented reality at the >>> minute. As you say it is very difficult technically to get it working, >>> and also difficult (for me at the moment) to find ways use it in my >>> art, to extend what I've been doing. My brain is under pressure! But >>> also, as you say, it's fascinating. I'll have a good look at Tamiko >>> Thiel's work - I'm very interested in how artists are using this >>> medium, and to use it for intervention is especially interesting. >>> >>> What did Gansig mean? Why offensive? I'd like to know more about this! >>> >>> dave >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 February 2012 12:05, ruth catlow<ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org> >>> wrote: >>>> Thought this was an interesting development. Tamiko Thiel is one of the >>>> view artists I have encountered who is creating thoughtful and critical >>>> artworks working with augmented reality. I think this is a particularly >>>> hard (and fascinating) form to work with. What could Gansig have meant? >>>> >>>> bests >>>> Ruth >>>> >>>> Please forward to interested parties: >>>> >>>> Today at the Transmediale in Berlin, Germany's most important media art >>>> festival, Transmediale director Kristoffer Gansing censored augmented >>>> reality artist Tamiko Thiel in a discussion billed as an "open >>>> conversation." >>>> >>>> During the panel discussion "25 years of transmediale / reSource >>>> Activism VIDEOMAKERS UNITE!," Thiel was invited by a panelist to talk >>>> about "Reign of Gold," her augmented reality artwork for the AR Occupy >>>> Wall Street project. >>>> http://www.mission-base.com/tamiko/AR/reign-of-gold.html >>>> >>>> Gansing - who was not moderating but sat in the audience - literally >>>> shut her up, and demanded that her website be taken off the screen, >>>> saying he finds augmented reality art "offensive!" >>>> >>>> Ironically Gansing themed his festival "in/compatible" and proclaimed >>>> that it would look at artistic movements that were not compatible with >>>> the existing order and systems. >>>> >>>> Why does Transmediale celebrate yesterday's interventionist art, but >>>> fear today's interventionist art? >>>> >>>> Videomakers Unite! >>>> http://www.transmediale.de/node/20679 >>>> An open conversation about video art and net culture, media collectives >>>> and counter-publics ... Videomakers Unite! takes a critical look back at >>>> the 1980s and 90s discourse around video and the net, and relates this >>>> to the production of present-day counter-cultures within the fields of >>>> political and artistic, individual and collective practices. >>>> >>>> - Tamiko Thiel >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Tamiko Thiel >>>> Visiting Professor, UdK Berlin, IZM >>>> (Berlin University of the Arts, Inst. of Time-Based Media) >>>> Technologies of Non-linear Dramaturgies >>>> >>>> >>>> Venice Biennial 2011 - Manifest.AR guerrilla AR Infiltration >>>> http://manifestarblog.wordpress.com/thiel_venice-2011/ >>>> >>>> Istanbul Biennial 2011 - official collateral exhibit >>>> http://mission-base.com/tamiko/AR/ii/images.html >>>> >>>> Email: tam...@alum.mit.edu >>>> Website: http://www.mission-base.com/tamiko/ >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org >>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>> >> >> -- >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> helen varley jamieson: creative catalyst >> he...@creative-catalyst.com >> http://www.creative-catalyst.com >> http://www.make-shift.net >> http://www.upstage.org.nz >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- ____________________________________________________________ helen varley jamieson: creative catalyst he...@creative-catalyst.com http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.make-shift.net http://www.upstage.org.nz ____________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour