i'm also keen to find out more about Gansig's reasoning for his offensive stance?
+ i've been running a blog at augmentology.com for years [2008] that has both articles + links regarding AR [Augmented Reality]. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 4:00 AM, dave miller <dave.miller...@gmail.com>wrote: > I've put together tons of links (on Delicious) on the subject of > augmented reality - might be of interest: > http://delicious.com/davemilleruk > > dave > > On 4 February 2012 15:41, Mark Hancock <mark.r.hanc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'd love to find out more as well, if we can? > > > > I do love a good open and uncensored public debate about the arts. As > long as it falls within my own aesthetic and cultural paradigms without me > having to open up to the possibility that there are new and emerging art > forms that I might not like. > > > > Hey, maybe I should apply to run Transmediale next year? > > > > Love, > > > > Mark > > > > On 4 Feb 2012, at 15:29, dave miller wrote: > > > >> thanks helen that's really kind of you > >> > >> d:} > >> > >> On 4 February 2012 15:27, helen varley jamieson > >> <he...@creative-catalyst.com> wrote: > >>> i'm not sure if she's on this list - i'll email her & ask her to > respond. :) > >>> > >>> > >>> On 5/02/12 1:23 AM, dave miller wrote: > >>>> > >>>> i'd love to know more > >>>> > >>>> d :) > >>>> > >>>> On 4 February 2012 15:19, helen varley jamieson > >>>> <he...@creative-catalyst.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> it is hard to understand what he could have found offensive - i asked > >>>>> tamiko& she said that he didn't say anything substantive; it sounds > >>>>> > >>>>> like he was saying that he finds augmented reality art in general > >>>>> offensive, rather than tamiko's work - altho demanding that it be > taken > >>>>> off-screen is a pretty strong response. but it is hard to understand > how > >>>>> a director of a media art festival could label one particular artform > >>>>> offensive. > >>>>> > >>>>> we could ask tamiko to tell us more ... > >>>>> > >>>>> h : ) > >>>>> > >>>>> On 4/02/12 10:38 PM, dave miller wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> thanks for this Ruth - I'm working with augmented reality at the > >>>>>> minute. As you say it is very difficult technically to get it > working, > >>>>>> and also difficult (for me at the moment) to find ways use it in my > >>>>>> art, to extend what I've been doing. My brain is under pressure! But > >>>>>> also, as you say, it's fascinating. I'll have a good look at Tamiko > >>>>>> Thiel's work - I'm very interested in how artists are using this > >>>>>> medium, and to use it for intervention is especially interesting. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> What did Gansig mean? Why offensive? I'd like to know more about > this! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> dave > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 4 February 2012 12:05, ruth catlow<ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thought this was an interesting development. Tamiko Thiel is one > of > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>> view artists I have encountered who is creating thoughtful and > critical > >>>>>>> artworks working with augmented reality. I think this is a > particularly > >>>>>>> hard (and fascinating) form to work with. What could Gansig have > meant? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> bests > >>>>>>> Ruth > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Please forward to interested parties: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Today at the Transmediale in Berlin, Germany's most important > media art > >>>>>>> festival, Transmediale director Kristoffer Gansing censored > augmented > >>>>>>> reality artist Tamiko Thiel in a discussion billed as an "open > >>>>>>> conversation." > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> During the panel discussion "25 years of transmediale / reSource > >>>>>>> Activism VIDEOMAKERS UNITE!," Thiel was invited by a panelist to > talk > >>>>>>> about "Reign of Gold," her augmented reality artwork for the AR > Occupy > >>>>>>> Wall Street project. > >>>>>>> http://www.mission-base.com/tamiko/AR/reign-of-gold.html > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Gansing - who was not moderating but sat in the audience - > literally > >>>>>>> shut her up, and demanded that her website be taken off the screen, > >>>>>>> saying he finds augmented reality art "offensive!" > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Ironically Gansing themed his festival "in/compatible" and > proclaimed > >>>>>>> that it would look at artistic movements that were not compatible > with > >>>>>>> the existing order and systems. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Why does Transmediale celebrate yesterday's interventionist art, > but > >>>>>>> fear today's interventionist art? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Videomakers Unite! > >>>>>>> http://www.transmediale.de/node/20679 > >>>>>>> An open conversation about video art and net culture, media > collectives > >>>>>>> and counter-publics ... Videomakers Unite! takes a critical look > back > >>>>>>> at > >>>>>>> the 1980s and 90s discourse around video and the net, and relates > this > >>>>>>> to the production of present-day counter-cultures within the > fields of > >>>>>>> political and artistic, individual and collective practices. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - Tamiko Thiel > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Tamiko Thiel > >>>>>>> Visiting Professor, UdK Berlin, IZM > >>>>>>> (Berlin University of the Arts, Inst. of Time-Based Media) > >>>>>>> Technologies of Non-linear Dramaturgies > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Venice Biennial 2011 - Manifest.AR guerrilla AR Infiltration > >>>>>>> http://manifestarblog.wordpress.com/thiel_venice-2011/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Istanbul Biennial 2011 - official collateral exhibit > >>>>>>> http://mission-base.com/tamiko/AR/ii/images.html > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Email: tam...@alum.mit.edu > >>>>>>> Website: http://www.mission-base.com/tamiko/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> NetBehaviour mailing list > >>>>>>> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > >>>>>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> NetBehaviour mailing list > >>>>>> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > >>>>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ > >>>>> > >>>>> helen varley jamieson: creative catalyst > >>>>> he...@creative-catalyst.com > >>>>> http://www.creative-catalyst.com > >>>>> http://www.make-shift.net > >>>>> http://www.upstage.org.nz > >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> NetBehaviour mailing list > >>>>> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > >>>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> ____________________________________________________________ > >>> > >>> helen varley jamieson: creative catalyst > >>> he...@creative-catalyst.com > >>> http://www.creative-catalyst.com > >>> http://www.make-shift.net > >>> http://www.upstage.org.nz > >>> ____________________________________________________________ > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> NetBehaviour mailing list > >> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NetBehaviour mailing list > > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > -- Reality Engineer> Synthetic Environment Strategist> Game[r + ] Theorist. ::http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/human-readable-messages/17341088 ::
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