I understand well and am in support of everything Alan has just written and said about Netbehavior, I hope this list continues and grows as it must have over the past. (And apologies for my 'stone fence' post the other day as it must have been a distraction, but I had meant to respond to something that John had written).
regards Johannes Birringer ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Alan Sondheim [[email protected]] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 3:05 PM Netbehaviour has been one of my mainstays for discovering new work, new artists, new ideas; the urls serve me and I can easily follow through from them. And I can't imagine having even this discussion, say, on Wordpress or Fb; one of the advantages of email is that it arrives without its own platform, or with minimalized platforms or with self-designed platforms; it's as close to discussion we can have if we include, obviously, buffering and communality (Skype isn't good at either for example). Fb discussions trail out and disperse as well; G+ was, if I remember correctly, supposed to be a discussion platform, but again that seemed to collapse, just as newsgroups did. To bring an antique acronym back for a second, email is wysiwyg; it's platform independent. I'd say a potentially simple solution would be to have a Furtherfield studio for open presentations, projects, etc., running on a separate server. As far as changing the demographics of the list - that's another problem and an important one, and it seems to me that people who are teaching in university or say k 9-12 (in the U.S.) might be able to bring students in; I used to do that with other lists when I had a position. For myself, I find a kind of skittering underlying the discussion and I worry about that; philosophy, new media aesthetics, etc., are difficult topics, there are a lot of exploratory/explanatory sites out there, and the value of this list, like empyre, is that it creates a focus; I take what I learn here and it becomes part of my day in a way that Fb posts don't, Wired.com doesn't, etc. The commons like the stoa are a place of discussion and hopefully a kind of quietude that provides the grounds for discussion - as an example, I learned far more about anguish on the extended presentations on empyre (when Johannes and I co-moderated a discussion on absolute terror, ISIS, and performance), than I did on all the fast-forward and intermittent talk/presentations elsewhere. I was able to follow through with the buffering, url extensions, and even chat/skype that came out of it. I'm on Fb, blogs, G+, news, etc. daily, but here I can contemplate in an entirely different way, one close, in fact, to nature, to what's left of the natural environment (and there are a number of studies indicating that such is good for your health, not only mentally, but also physically) - so I would argue that we keep this core as it is, extend the demography, as much as possible, and build elsewhere. (As a final note, I tend to read most of my email in a linux terminal; the advantage is even less graphics, no advertising, and a kind of textual presentation that approaches Vygotsky's inner speech. I remember more, think more, etc., but of course this isn't for everyone and I use gmail, Fb messaging as well.) - Alan, thanks for a great discussion - On Mon, 5 Oct 2015, Randall Packer wrote: > I want to express a note of thanks to all those who have been participating > in this interesting conversation. I have also adjusted the topic because we > abandoned Geert?s interview long ago. > > I think this is a fascinating and relevant discussion for NetBehaviour and I > too hope it will lead to a more focused discussion that could potentially > lead to action. But in the meantime, it is an important conversation, > because there are many here and elsewhere who are grappling with information > flows among online communities: grappling with the conservation of > knowledge, _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
