Hi Ruth
I couldn't agree more. Of course there are areas which for all sorts of reasons
M &E didn't have anything to say about, and there were things about which they
were plain wrong. I'm not interested in a cult or religion.My point is about
baby and bathwater or, more, about not doing work that has already been well
done.I would say in passing that M & E were not indifferent or ignorant to the
kind of questions you raise. Here's an interesting review of a book on the
topic - http://monthlyreview.org/2015/12/01/marxism-and-ecology/and here's a
short article from the international Socialism Journal by the book's
author:http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/isj96/foster.htm
warmest wishesmichael
From: ruth catlow <ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org>
To: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism
Yes Michael, and this is profoundly poetic.
All human traditions, values and communities are dissolved in an acid bath of
everlasting agitation and uncertainty.
What this passage does not describe though is a situation where the wider
ecologies of non-human planetary life, upon which we depend, are also fatally
eroded.
We need to sense and engage not just the real relations with "our kind"
(expanded to engage people and perspectives of all kinds (YES Gretta!)), but
beyond, with other species, and materials.
This must include a correction to systems of dominance - to which Simon points
with his example of improper use of neuro-science to validate the 'use' of
humans.
On 23/04/16 16:38, Michael Szpakowski wrote:
Marx & Engels on accelerationism in 1848:
"The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionising the
instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with
them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of
production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of
existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionising of
production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting
uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier
ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and
venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become
antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that
is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his
real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind." This does the
*descriptive* job as well as anything written since and it still stands
perfectly well... Sent from my iPhone
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