On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 01:59:59PM +0200, Maciej Soltysiak wrote: > > I try not to use Windows. Ever. But now and again I have to. It's like > > having to go to the loo. > Well w2k + tons of resource kit programs make windows quite nice, the > tools are all there, scripting is possible, but still it is windows.
Agreed - but this isn't the right place for an OS argument, so I'll limit myself to a single word. > > I read somewhere, that pre-XP didn't have the possibility of using raw > > sockets. Oh yes, it was the famous Mr. Gibson. And that ICMP raw socket > > echo requests wouldn't be possible - that the whole thing was fudged > > with UDP or TCP. > > > You mean that pre-XP tracert coud not have been using ICMP Echo Requests? No, I *think* he meant post XP that it could have used UDP. > > So there must be a distinction between pre-XP and post-XP tracert. Or > > not? > Amazing, i was not aware, really, i have to find out. AFAIK tracert has always used echo requests. > Can you give closer description of the source you mentioned? This > Mr. Gibson. http://www.grc.com/ I personally think you should take Mr. Gibson's comments and propositions with a large pinch of salt, however many others disagree. Do read the website and make up your own mind. I'm hoping that we can avoid OS *and* pro or anti Gibson arguments on what is a well behaved and rather useful list.... we'll see :) -- FunkyJesus System Administration Team
