On 12/21/15, 2:21 PM, "netmod on behalf of Ladislav Lhotka" 
<netmod-boun...@ietf.org on behalf of lho...@nic.cz> wrote:

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>> On 21 Dec 2015, at 19:02, Juergen Schoenwaelder 
>> <j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote:
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>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 06:47:49PM +0100, Benoit Claise wrote:
>> 
>>> I hope that nobody disagrees that the operational state design and how 
>>> to structure the models are the two blocking factors to publish YANG 
>>> models. If you disagree or don't see this, let me know, I should 
>>> communicate better.
>> 
>> Even if it may spoil your day, I disagree that there is a blocking
>> factor that should stop us from publishing models. There seem to be
>> ways to address the requirements without having to block all work or
>> to redo what that we have published. But sure, if you make it a
>> blocking factor, it will be one.
>
>I agree with Juergen. It is not clear to me how the proposed split between 
>intended and applied configuration is supposed to affect the data models we 
>are working on.


As I understand it, solution #1 affects the models themselves, whereas 
solutions #2 and #3 are transparent to the models.

Kent



>Lada
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>> 
>>> I hope that nobody really believes that because some people in IETF (or 
>>> in any other SDOs) thinks that what those operators want is a bad idea, 
>>> those operators will not get what they request/pay for from their suppliers.
>> 
>> To be fair, those operators also tell us that they use protocols that
>> are not IETF protocols and it remains somewhat unclear what those
>> protocols are we are expected to optimize data model solutions for.
>> 
>> /js
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