Hi William,

I think that what yanglint is doing here is sane, i.e. I think that its interpretation/split between imported vs implemented modules is supported by the YANG RFC.

However, for validation purposes it seems that it would be useful if yanglint had an option to assume that all imported modules are implicitly implemented without requiring them to be explicitly specified.

Thanks,
Rob


On 06/03/2017 16:44, William Lupton wrote:
All,

This message arose from a yang-multic...@ietf.org <mailto:yang-multic...@ietf.org> “draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-02.txt: YANG compilation isuse” (sic) thread <https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/yang-multicast/current/threads.html#00232> initiated by Benoit.

I thought it would be useful for NETMOD to see the part of the discussion that relates to implemented versus imported YANG modules.

 1. Benoit Claise reported this warning:
      * warn: Schema node "ietf-ip:ipv4" not found
        
(/ietf-interfaces:interfaces/ietf-interfaces:interface[ietf-interfaces:name
        = current()]/ietf-ip:ipv4)
 2. Radek Krejčí replied:
      * These warnings are printed because in yanglint, until
        explicitly stated, the imported modules (such as
        ietf-interfaces and ietf-ip), are supposed to be only
        imported, not implemented. The data nodes in imported schemas
        are not available, which is the reason of these warnings.
 3. William Lupton (that’s me!) asked / commented:
      * Why are the complaints only about ip:ipv4 (etc) and not about
        if:interfaces (etc), which are also referenced in the must
        statements?
      * This makes it hard for an automated tool (such as Benoit’s)
        because it needs to know which other YANG files to process in
        addition to the “file of interest”.
 4. Radek Krejčí replied:
      * According to RFC 7950, sec 5.6.6 (3rd paragraph) [ED: 5.6.5?],
        when an implemented module augments another module
        (ietf-interfaces), the augmented module MUST be also
        implemented. So libyang automatically changes the augmented
        module from imported to the implemented. The same rule applies
        also in case of referring a module in path (leafref) and
        by deviating a module. But it does not apply when a module
        data is used in must or when conditions. That's the reason why
        it complains just about ietf-ip and not about ietf-interfaces.
      * YANG actually does not provide a way to specify that a
        particular import is also expected to be implemented.
        Therefore, libyang needs some help with setting modules
        implemented - all the explicitly loaded modules are supposed
        to be implemented, if the module is just implicitly loaded
        from the search directory and user did not expressed that it
        is supposed to be implemented, it is kept only imported to
        provide groupings or type definitions
 5. Benoit Claise asked (referring to my reference to automated tools):
      * Would it be possible to improve the warning (and the related
        test, by testing implemented instead of import), basically
        telling that the module itself is fine?


I’m interested to know that NETMOD thinks about this distinction between implemented versus imported (in the absence of any instance documents). I guess my (maybe naive) view is that if all I’m doing is checking for errors in my YANG model then I don’t care about this. If my YANG is good I want to see no warnings or errors, and if it’s bad then I want to be told this (and why).

Thanks,
William


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