On 17/03/2017 14:32, Ladislav Lhotka wrote:
On 17 Mar 2017, at 15:04, Robert Wilton <rwil...@cisco.com> wrote:

Hi,

Would 7950bis be allowed to have a normative reference to an Informational RFC 
that defined the YANG datastores?
My idea is that 7950bis should be made independent of any particular set of 
datastores, so such a normative reference shouldn't be needed.
OK, if 70590bis was entirely datastore agnostic, then there would need to be a description of how YANG applies to a particular set of datastores (in particular the config: true|false statement), and which datastores are validated. Would that go in the revised datastores architecture or somewhere else? It wouldn't make sense to have to repeat this for every network configuration protocol.

Thanks,
Rob



Lada

If we did a 7950bis document (and it isn't clear that one is actually required 
to support the revised datastores draft) then does that mean we would also need 
to have a new version of YANG?

That would potentially seem like a backwards step.  Also what would it mean for 
an implementation that is aware of the new datastores but is using a mix of 
YANG modules with different versions?

I don't understand why the revised datastores draft should not be standards 
track once the various appendices have been moved out, noting that they are 
really only in the one draft at this stage because it seemed like that would 
make it easier for folks to review and comment on.

Is the only issue here which WG the draft is being worked on?

Thanks,
Rob


On 17/03/2017 13:22, Mehmet Ersue wrote:
I think YANG identities should be standardized with 7950bis.

Mehmet

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Juergen,

Thank you for the input.  I think your point highlights how the technical
contents of a document drives the intended status of a document.

Lou

PS as a reminder to all, intended status of documents is *not* typically
included in charters and are not included in the distributed version.




On March 16, 2017 2:44:53 AM Juergen Schoenwaelder
<j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote:

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 02:50:06PM +0100, Mehmet Ersue wrote:

That said different people including Netconf WG co-chairs think the DS
concept document is Informational in nature and should be published as
an
Informational concept to be used in and adopted for the needs in
diverse
protocol WGs. This is as I think also important to avoid an overlapping
between NETCONF and NETMOD charters.
The current datastore draft includes concrete YANG idenity definitions
for datastores and origins and these definitions better be standards
track.

/js

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