Hi,

Consider a template that defines some interface data nodes using ietf 
interfaces yang model. Leaf node “type” is a mandatory data node according to 
RFC 8343.
     +--rw interfaces
        +--rw interface* [name]
           +--rw name                        string
           +--rw description?                string
           +--rw type                        identityref

So even if you have defined the “type” of the interface in the templates, you 
will be forced to set this at the reference point as well. Isn’t it?

Thanks,
Shiya

From: Andy Bierman <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2024 6:36 PM
To: Kent Watsen <[email protected]>
Cc: Shiya Ashraf (Nokia) <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [netmod] Mandatory/default statements and templates (was: Yang 
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On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 8:35 AM Kent Watsen 
<[email protected]<mailto:kent%[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Shiya,


On Nov 13, 2024, at 10:09 AM, Shiya Ashraf (Nokia) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:

Hi Kent,

Sorry but I miss the point you made with the below statement:
“As a contributor, I feel that the concern is unwarranted.  My belief/hope is 
that templates are not themselves validated when defined, but rather only the 
fully expanded/flattened results of templates are validated.“
Shiya>> For mandatories, the problem that was highlighted was more about 
following the DRY approach for templates.  For instance, in the below example 
copied from #3, slide 6, assume if the ‘mtu’ was defined as a mandatory data 
node with in a non-presence container, you will be forced to add it anyway for 
each interface in the below example and thus loosing the advantage of 
templating for these special data nodes. Isn’t it?

I don’t understand your comment, but I will state my worldview (as a 
contributor) which is:

- any data model can be templatized (including already published YANG modules)
- these data models may contain `mandatory` and `default` statements

- templates are NOT themselves ever validated
- only the post-expanded/flattened result is validated (e.g., in <intended>)


Agreed.
This is easily accomplished by using an 'anydata' wrapper for the template 
content.

<template>
  <name>template1</name>
   <target>/ietf-interfaces:interfaces/interface</target>
   <data>
      <interface>
        ....
      </interface>
    <data>
</template>

This solution has been in deployment for over 7 years.
https://github.com/YumaWorks/yumapro-yang/blob/main/yumaworks/yumaworks-templates.yang

IMO the WG should try to support more than the basics (like ranges and 
conditional logic).



FWIW, I was referring to Slide 8 of Template Idea #1.

K.


Andy




<interfaces>
  <interface yt:apply-templates=“set_physical_mtu”>
    <name>GigabitEthernet0/0/0/0</name>
  </interface>
  <interface>
    <name>GigabitEthernet0/0/0/1</name>
  </interface>
</interfaces>

Thanks,
Shiya


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