Hello, Leigh, and the rest of the <nettime> world, My goal is not to be smarter than the other but to learn through an argument. In that regard, I hope that my response will be published as well.
I started my last response: “First, it is not about throwing the names for the sake of throwing THE names, it was in context of someone TALKING ABOUT a child's ability to do better painting than "Pollock...” This discussion actually has arisen out of the discussions going on in thread “Wikileaks is old hat” where Leigh utilized his paragraph in order to compare “to a large extent” manufactured nature of Pollock fame to a probability that the fame of Wikileaks might be manufactured as well. Then this discussion about Pollock and AB art took its own “spin” and moved away from its original thread, into the new one, “Pollock, Art History and Cold War [was: Wikileaks is old hat]”... Leigh wrote, Re: <nettime> Wikileaks is old hat: “Much like standing in front of a Jackson Pollock painting and saying, "what's so fantastic about that, my 5 year old could have done it!". To a large extent, Pollock's fame was manufactured, for a post war America, keen to dominate ideological landscapes, including abstract art - a movement begun in Russia some 50 years prior, ironically enough... So, to what extent do people on this list suspect Wikileaks as spin itself?” I apologize, for I am not that interested in engaging in discussion about WikiLeaks, for I truly believe it is better with them than without them, regardless of all that there is or might be. The rest what I said stays ... Regards,gORAN # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mail.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org