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Dear Nettime,

I am not at all surprised by the lack of commentary regarding this latest 
paroxysm of violence. And I do not read it as "silence" in a self-censorship 
sense. Given the political tendencies of list members combined with people's 
baseline intellectual sophistication, I don't perceive a lack of commentary as 
a repressive effect of pro-Israeli intimidation, fears of being tarred as 
anti-Semitic and similar speciousness. This is indeed the dynamic in other 
spheres--political, commercial media, etc. But not so much here in our peculiar 
online niche.

Rather, and I put myself as an example, many leftists simply are without much 
new to say. The Hamas offensive was only surprising in its level of 
organization, not in the attack itself. For anybody who's paid attention, we 
knew that Israeli forces had exacted quite a price in lives over the last eight 
or ten months, including the egregious killings of totally innocent children 
and young people, over and above the everyday collective punitive treatment 
Palestinians suffer. The ground level provocations have been building over this 
year, with boiling points exceeded at the Al-Aqsa Mosque at least a couple of 
times. The Israeli aggression seemed to rise in parallel with the controversies 
regarding the Israeli judiciary, a conservative religious power grab that if 
carried through, from the Palestinian point of view, portends turbocharged 
legalized ethnic cleansing and dispossession.

So when Netanyahu "declared war," my first thought was, what does that make the 
attacks of the last half year, "special military operations"???

No, not much to say because it's all playing out according to a narrative that 
remains in broad strokes familiar even a full generation after the first 
Intifada. Whatever retaliation Israel takes, it will be ruthless, everybody 
knew this. Grim-faced Netanyau warning Palestinians confined in Gaza to "leave 
now," as if that were in any way possible, sounds to me like a preemptive 
blaming of the victim for their own soon-to-be massacre. But A) Hamas isn't 
totally suicidal; abducting dozens of Israelis to be used as bargaining chips 
speaks to their desperate belief in a future, almost a resignation to their own 
persistence, since B) as the Israelis know better than most anyone, stamping 
out an entire people is damn near impossible in any event.

Finally, I might as well share my knee-jerk response to the question "Why the 
silence?" Which is a variation on the phrasing I consider all-too familiar: 
"Why are we not talking about [fill in blank with your choice of urgent 
issue]??" I see this kind of objection to a presumed complacency a lot these 
days, and each time and in regards to whatever issue is being raised, there is 
in the asking of the question a whiff of shaming. The question is asked as if 
"talking about" the Israeli-Palestinian conflict helps to solve it. But we know 
this is not true--I stand by my arguments and condemnations of disproportionate 
Israeli violence and land theft that I've made over the years publicly, 
semi-publicly, and in private, but nothing has changed. Not even the opinions 
of the people I've addressed. So what good is the talking for?? In the 
resorting to the question "Why the silence?" there is an ultimate and maybe 
only definite presumed effect: that those of us raising the issues and taking 
the right sides (with--as is mandatory in my lefty circles--a sensitivity to 
the legitimate grievances of ALL sides) *purify* ourselves. So there is a 
kernel of understood (neo?)liberal values at the heart of the question: that 
our own personal displays of virtue are the solution to the problem.

The BDS movement sought to turn this talk into action, into a material 
consequence for Israel. And we've seen how moves to enact BDS in any 
de-personalized and/or institutional way, even on the smallest, almost merely 
symbolic level, have been repressed. But, sure, let's keep talking....

So with this response, I've broken my own silence. To which I will now 
return--not out of a discomfort regarding the topic (clearly), but rather 
because I believe "noble silence" is the less disingenuous path when public 
discourse has been so thoroughly degraded of its formerly meaningful role in 
decisions of state, that we are left with only the neoliberal vulgate. 

All that said, the geopolitical implications are where I have questions. The 
Saudi/Iran fault line seems like a key dynamic here, with Palestinians and 
their legit resistance being used by neighboring powers yet again. Despite the 
timing of the Hamas incursions to launch near the 50th anniversary of the Yom 
Kippur war, the regional balance of power is quite different from the 
post-Soviet era, to say nothing of the pre-Arab Spring era, and now, in shadows 
cast by the Ukraine War. I'm sure the Iranian regime is asking itself whether a 
hot war would help Iran's ruling regime consolidate its authority over its 
restive young people, and at what cost. These are the kinds of wider 
possibilities that I *do* believe are worth discussing, mainly because pooling 
info and perspectives would help (me, at least) think through the 
reverberations of the current conflict--not because I'd expect the conversation 
to affect anything. 

Signing off with hope (believe it or not), 

Dan W. 

Late Postscript: Kudos to all who contributed to the smooth re-boot of Nettime. 
Been here since the late 90s, still ready to add something when pricked just 
so. 


-- 

Resident Artist, 18th Street Arts Center
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@nowtime_asianamerica
danswang.xyz



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On Sunday, October 8th, 2023 at 10:35 AM, Andrew Ross via nettime-l 
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> At this moment, as on many past occasions, I have been struck by the
> silence, on this list, about the topic of Palestine. I expect there are
> quite a few nettimers who fit the profile of "progressive except on
> Palestine," but there are surely many others who do not observe that
> exception and who are otherwise outspoken on the topic. So why the silence?
> I ask, not to provoke, but because, at the very least, it is a question
> about the behavior of online communities--a topic about which
> nettimers have often been very eloquent.
>
> Andrew Ross
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