Hello Nettime...
"On 09/10/2023 22:06, Brian Holmes via nettime-l wrote:
In the situation of chaos it is important, not only to state one's own
beliefs, but to actually listen to others. The debates within civil
society, and the formation of public opinion, do exert some influence
over the behavior of states. If left/progressive voices are not heard,
well, that's our fault, we need to be more convincing.
AND
There is no reason to believe that a simple breakdown of the Euro-American hegemony
is positive in and of itself. But the world has embarked on a bloody political
transformation, under the shadow of catastrophic earth-system changes." both of
these from Brian's post.
And, I would add to Brian's comments that not only do we need to be more
convincing but also to persistently update concepts of what the public
sphere encompasses and the forms of communication that enliven debates
within civil society. The chorus of progressive voices is very
fragmented with the sopranos not listening (or simply paying lip
service) to the tenors. This is very problematic because the droning
sounds of neo-fascism have a consistency that appeals to large segments
of our various societies. Brian's second point I think is extremely
important "catastrophic earth-system changes"are inseparable from the other political issues that we are contending
with (like the Israeli/Palestinian conflict) and we need to maintain
political networks that reinforce these connections. best allan
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