Hello,
and thank's for the relevant question. I wouldn't say that the
description has a potential for describing change. A description is
something in a language, and languages do not act and therfore do not
change anything. Languages do not speak. People speak, and people might
use languages to change something. In this context, it is people who
entwine description and action. An epistemology might be used to argue
this (while it's not necassary to develop an empistemology before taking
action). In that case, the epistemology is used to entwine the
description and the change. For this I prefer a dualist epistemology.
With a monist empistemology it's not possible as far as I can see.
Am 03.04.25 um 17:42 schrieb Dylan O:
Hello!
apologies if my formatting is poor, it's my first response here.
This is the first time I've seen the critique of the inability to
"gesture" towards forms of action on here. In my short time on this
list, I haven't seen much in the way of silhouetting forms of action
on here. How would you posit that the description of a circumstance is
entwined with it's potential for describing change?
Thanks!
Dylan
On Thu, Apr 3, 2025, 10:31 AM Christian Swertz via nettime-l
<[email protected]> wrote:
I seem to have missed something. I could not find the proclamation of
the dead end. I see the explicit reference to theories of the genre
"capitalism", which seems to imply some implicit reference to
theories
of the genre "communism" or "anarchism". This obviously points in the
direction of possible forms of action, as long as you accept
revolution
as a form of action.
The show that Trump and Musk are putting on is probably meant to be a
distraction. And usually distraction shows in the public sphere are
meant to distract from an ideology, in this case probably
something like
Christianity, Dataism and Capitalism. Christianity and Dataism have
already been discussed in the last days on the list - thank's for
that,
by the way. And Capitalism is probably not irrelevant here as far
as I
see. I would thus just add "capitalism" to the bouquet of
ideologies we
are facing. So the usual bouquet, it seems. Leaving out capitalism
might
thus indeed lead to confusion, don't you think?
Am 03.04.25 um 16:32 schrieb Ted Byfield via nettime-l:
> The only function of this kind of all-encompassing dead-end
proclamation is to be right. It explicitly dismisses all actual
details and dynamics as “theatrics,” so it can’t even gesture in
the direction of possible forms of action or theory. Worse, from
the first words — “for those that may be confused” — its dismissal
denies any alternative understanding with some grand
platonic-proscenium metaphor. It doesn’t even make the best the
enemy of the good, it just installs the worst as its sole
organizing principle.
>
> On Apr 3, 2025 at 4:43 AM -0400, Dmytri Kleiner via nettime-l
<[email protected]>, wrote:
>
>> For those that may be confused, to reinflate the rate of profit
for billionaires you need to destroy capital, attack labour, and
stifle competition.
>>
>> Trump's tariff tantrum, Musk's mayhem, the resulting
spectacular stock swoon, make capital and labour cheaper to
acquire and clears space for new concentrations of profit.
>>
>> This orchestrated chaos isn't about bolstering the economy for
non billionaries. Higher prices, job insecurity, and economic
instability are needed to confront profitability crises,
especially as the West re-orientates towards Cold War II, the
pacific pivot.
>>
>> Trump and Musk may deliver the spectacle with extra chaos and
cruelty, but the underlying logic is bipartisan and systemic and
done with strong consensus of the bourgeois elite, who imagine
this as Schumpeterian "Creative Destruction."
>>
>> When profitability falters, capitalism demands sacrifice:
capital must be devalued, labor disciplined, and markets cleared
of excess players. This isn’t policy error or personal failing,
it’s how the system sustains itself.
>>
>> Ignore the theatrics, the destruction is the point.
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