Cade,

On Mon, May 12, 2025, at 09:41, Cade Diehm via nettime-l wrote:
> Thanks for posting, Patrice.
>
> This op ed got me thinking, so I wrote a reply: [...]

Well said.  I read the piece when it showed up on the Guardian, and i remember 
feeling like it addressed real concerns but not being able to put my finger on 
the unease i had with the framing.  I think you hit the nail on the head – 
these threats are real, but we decide the framing of the discussion we're 
having, and as you say – talking about a faceless and unknowable "cloud 
fascism" denies the fact that behind these movements are flesh and blood people 
directing the proceedings that happen in physical data centres (or offices, or 
whatever), alongside us in (mostly) the same society.

Cheers,
p.
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